Doing Deals with a Full-Time 70-hour-a-Week Job (LA 909)

Doing Deals with a Full-Time 70-hour-a-Week Job (LA 909)

Transcript:

Steven Butala:                   Steve and Jill here.

Jill DeWit:                            Hello.

Steven Butala:                   Welcome to The Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I’m Steven Jack Butala.

Jill DeWit:                            I’m Jill DeWit, broadcasting from sunny southern California.

Steven Butala:                   Today, Jill and I talk about doing deals with a full-time 70 hour a week job. This is inspired by a true story, a true member story.

Jill DeWit:                            It wasn’t us.

Steven Butala:                   It’s inspired by a true story and embellished upon, as always.

Jill DeWit:                            Do you know what’s funny though?

Steven Butala:                   No, it’s not.

Jill DeWit:                            I think you did use those terms. No, I think he did say it really was 70 hours a week. It wasn’t embellished at all.

Steven Butala:                   No, that part’s not embellished at all.

Jill DeWit:                            No, but and I have some good tips.

Steven Butala:                   Of course, we’re going to tell our silly stories because when we started all of this stuff, a lot of years ago, we had jobs just like that too.

Jill DeWit:                            I know. I’ve had that. I’ve struggled what. It’s almost like, even thinking like college days. You know, you feel like when you’re cramming for a final. Like, oh, am I going to get it all done? I have some ideas.

Steven Butala:                   Through the years, Jill and I have found ourselves in this situation, where we’re working 70 hours a week.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   We have to reel it back in too.

Jill DeWit:                            That’s true.

Steven Butala:                   Seriously.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   If you have this personality type, you just take stuff on like this, but we’re getting into the show.

Jill DeWit:                            Okay.

Steven Butala:                   Before we get into it, let’s take a question, posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community. It’s free.

Jill DeWit:                            Elias asks, “How do you guys areas that are completely saturated with investors already? If everyone is there, obviously, it’s a good county/market to invest in. Do you jump in right alongside everyone else and mail to those same properties again? If so, do you get fewer signed offers? Do you target different size properties? I’ve been hitting and missing with these counties quite a bit lately. I’m trying not to waste too much more money on mail.”

Steven Butala:                   That’s a great question. A very valid concern and well put. I avoid competition.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   You know, we’ve got, I don’t know, 300 or so members in our group, I think, seriously actives ones are around 50% of that. And then, but I know the really, really successful ones that I’m in contact with because we do deals together, and funding and stuff, are not where you think they are. They’re not in, I’ll just reel off of a few counties.

Jill DeWit:                            Those places.

Steven Butala:                   They’re not in Costilla County, Colorado. They’re not in Mohave County, Arizona. Most of us are long past that.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   While those top counties are great to cut your teeth on, and they’re great, you will generally, buy property in those counties, you’re not going to quit your job, and support a family just on those really tiny deals. I’m not picking on those counties. You just need to think bigger, and you need to think more like Land Academy 2.0.

Jill DeWit:                            I look at it like, there’s people out there that think that they’re special secret counties that are great, and they’re golden, and you should always just go there. I think that’s what happens with some of these counties. People get like, oh, I should only buy in this county. What’s a bummer is, then it is busy, and frustrating, and I think part of it is, those people don’t know how to go outside of the bubble. Do you know what I mean?

Steven Butala:                   That’s what I think.

Jill DeWit:                            You, Elias, I’m hoping you’re a member. If not, when you are a member, we’ll teach you. Steven will teach you how to get out of the bubble.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            And really what to look for. Once you know what triggers to look for, what’s a good county, you know, what is the level of number of properties, versus, available properties? That kind of thing.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            Then, the tax situation. All of those factors, then you won’t even worry about it.

Steven Butala:                   It’s a valid concern, like I said. In Land Academy 2.0, I pit, or you should be pitting close by zip codes against each other. By submitting them into this red, green, yellow spreadsheet that all comes with the program, and find out which one’s the best. There’s what? 12,000 zip codes, I think, in this country. 3,144 counties. Like, 274 in Texas alone, and 150-million properties. That’s the raw data. Especially, now that we’re going to release House Academy here in a few months, I mean, there’s no competition.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   Do you where the competition comes from? Jill, please don’t kick me under the desk here. It comes from other people who talk about this and teach this.

Jill DeWit:                            That’s what I was going to say.

Steven Butala:                   And say that there are secret counties.

Jill DeWit:                            That’s what I was kind of alluding to.

Steven Butala:                   They say that there’s like 12 counties that you really should be doing this in.

Jill DeWit:                            Start here.

Steven Butala:                   That’s just silly.

Jill DeWit:                            My favorite is, let’s leave those alone. Let’s let those people have that, and they can all just keep going around in circles over there.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            We’re all over here. We’re in the rest of the country.

Steven Butala:                   That’s exactly right. And then, not to mention, there’s industrial property, commercial property, all kinds of other stuff.

Jill DeWit:                            Yep.

Steven Butala:                   You know, that we’ve been involved in for a long time. We will release those programs as we go here.

Jill DeWit:                            Don’t worry about it.

Steven Butala:                   The answer, to directly answer your question and this is actually a big topic for us. It’s a big FAQ for us around here. Please avoid the top 12 counties that other people who think that they teach this correctly, how to buy and sell rural vacant land, just avoid them.

Jill DeWit:                            Yep.

Steven Butala:                   That’s it.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   Very quickly here, within days, going to launch a newer version of Land Academy 1.0 and this directly gets addressed, which is why I chose this question. There’s a lot of questions on Land Investors, but I chose this one specifically to address this because it’s changed a little bit since 2015 when we released the first one.

Jill DeWit:                            Yep.

Steven Butala:                   Today’s topic, doing deals with a full-time 70-hour job. This is the meat of the show. This was a topic that was inspired by a real member, and a very successful member who just got a promotion. Congratulations, Tony.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   Jill said, “You know, we should just make this a topic and kind of talk about it because it’s something that most people struggle with if you have a type A personality.” Like, probably everybody listening to this.

Jill DeWit:                            And/or have a very demanding job. Let’s just say, [inaudible] it was, Tony told us on a member call like, “Hey guys, I just got promoted. It’s kicking my ass.” Can I say that?

Steven Butala:                   Yeah, why not?

Jill DeWit:                            Well, I did. So anyway.

Steven Butala:                   It’s not like anybody really edits this.

Jill DeWit:                            So, Tony said that. Right, exactly. Tony’s like, “Can we talk about that?” I’m like, yeah, that’s true. That happens. I came up with some good things, I think to help you with this. Do you have something you want to add?

Steven Butala:                   No.

Jill DeWit:                            Do you want me to jump right in? Okay.

Steven Butala:                   I think this is a made for question for you. Made for you because you’re a very, very good time manager.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   For your age.

Jill DeWit:                            I’m like, that’s not what you said before. Wait a minute.

Steven Butala:                   Do you know what the truth is?

Jill DeWit:                            That’s not what I recall.

Steven Butala:                   You are a really good time manager, Jill.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   I’m just compulsive about it.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   When you line both of us up together, it’s like, eh.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   And I mean about me and not you.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you. The first thing I was going to say though, I had something funny too, though. Don’t you wish we had NZT?

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            This would solve it. As I was writing notes on the show, I have two points I want to touch on. I have some hopefully, some solutions, or some things to help. I thought, you know, NZD would solve this whole program.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            I remember watching that movie and going, remember you and I at the movie? Both, this is what was so funny. At the end of the movie, you and I both …

Steven Butala:                   The movie’s called Limitless.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   With Bradley Cooper.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah. It’s this drug called NZT, if you haven’t seen the movie, that gives you this energy, and this memory, and sharpness that you could do anything.

Steven Butala:                   It taps into all your brain power.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   You know, everybody’s always ever heard, you know, we’re only using like 5% of our brain power.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah, it dumps it to like 80% or something crazy. He’s like …

Steven Butala:                   There’s huge side effects, of course.

Jill DeWit:                            Of course.

Steven Butala:                   But, he eventually becomes the president.

Jill DeWit:                            Right, and then what’s so cool is though, at the end of the movie, you know, it makes you think right? At the end of the movie, we both were walking out of the theater, and we’re like …

Steven Butala:                   I do it.

Jill DeWit:                            That was the question. We both said, okay, let’s see what we would say. Would you do it? You know, we asked each other, and we’re both like, one, two, three, we were like, “Yes, I would do it.” Having the extra brain power, we both voted was worth the side effects. We’d take it on.

Steven Butala:                   I mean, I’ll agree that drugs, in general, make you dumber.

Jill DeWit:                            Right, right.

Steven Butala:                   They make you more tired, the vast majority of them.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   I mean, there’s arguments for all this stuff, but I think the long-term effect of just about any street drug, and the vast majority, if not all prescription drugs, the long-term effect of all it is bad.

Jill DeWit:                            That’s not where I’m going, Mr. Public Service Announcement.

Steven Butala:                   I just want a good drug.

Jill DeWit:                            Don’t do drugs, kids.

Steven Butala:                   Isn’t there a good drug somewhere?

Jill DeWit:                            That’s not where I was going with this.

Steven Butala:                   A good drug that has look good, long-term effects.

Jill DeWit:                            Where are you going?

Steven Butala:                   It makes you smarter.

Jill DeWit:                            I’m going to throw in the public service announcement, don’t do drugs. That’s not what this is about.

Steven Butala:                   That’s right.

Jill DeWit:                            That was movie magic. Okay, so now I’m going to talk about the real meat of the show.

Steven Butala:                   All right, Hollywood.

Jill DeWit:                            Silly. Here’s what I was going to say, this happens. I’ve talked to a lot of members like this. Like, oh my gosh, how am I going to do this? I have a full-time job. There’s two things you’ve got think about. One is, you’re mentally drained. That’s one issue. The other one is limited time. I have three things to talk about for each one. Three ideas to help everyone.

Steven Butala:                   Well, good.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you. May I say them, please?

Steven Butala:                   She’s doing all the work here. I love it.

Jill DeWit:                            I am.

Steven Butala:                   Thank you.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah, unless you’re going to talk about drugs or something.

Steven Butala:                   I can bring drugs back into this.

Jill DeWit:                            No, we don’t need to. If you’re mentally drained, one thing that I want to make sure that you’re doing is, and we do this with ourselves, and I even do this. Steven doesn’t know this, but when I see it coming, I do this for him. One is, take care of yourself as best you can. By that, I mean, are you eating right, and getting enough sleep? There’s times that I watch him, and I watch myself, and I can see us getting mentally drained. I’m like, all right.

Steven Butala:                   I didn’t know this.

Jill DeWit:                            I do.

Steven Butala:                   You’re like the nicest girl there ever was.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   I mean it.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   That’s like true love.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you very much. I do that.

Steven Butala:                   It’s been a lot of years, and I had never knew that even that crossed your mind.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah, I do. And so, I’m making sure that we’re getting sleep, we’re taking it easy if we need. We have a lot coming up, making sure we have food. There’s good food. Sometimes and if Steven’s in a mood, I kind of like put food under the table and run to the door, and run, but at least I make sure.

Steven Butala:                   You run to the door.

Jill DeWit:                            But at least I make sure to slide it under the door and run. He’s grumpy. He’s hungry. He doesn’t know it yet.

Steven Butala:                   Under the door.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah, you know.

Steven Butala:                   That’s awesome.

Jill DeWit:                            But, under the cell door. Just kidding. Office door.

Steven Butala:                   Under the door implies that I have more own space.

Jill DeWit:                            You do have your own space.

Steven Butala:                   Okay. That’s for another topic.

Jill DeWit:                            Okay. But anyway, so, that’s number one. Make sure you’re trying to take care of yourself. Number two, mental breaks. You’re good at this. I’ve seen you do this. A mental break is sometimes you have to remove yourself from what you’re doing. I know you’re deep in a project, but you have to come up for air now and then. I want you to maybe read something for even just a few minutes. Take your mind off of it. Watch a movie. Go to a movie. Watch part of a movie. I don’t know. Take a break. I’ve watched you and I think it’s really good, and haven’t done it in a while. I’ve come up to your office and seen you playing a video game.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            I know that that’s good. That’s a good mental break.

Steven Butala:                   Yep.

Jill DeWit:                            Take yourself out of whatever you’re doing, clear your head, and then you can go back in. That’s a good thing to help with mental breaks.

Steven Butala:                   You know, I do that for you because I know when you flip your lid, it’s drag you to dinner.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   Even when you don’t want to go.

Jill DeWit:                            And you’re covering them all.

Steven Butala:                   And split a bottle of wine or whatever.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah. It takes me all out of the muck.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            A glass of wine helps everything.

Steven Butala:                   That’s what I think.

Jill DeWit:                            You’ve got to clear your head. You know, it’s good, so that’s number three, which is my thing is, watch yourself and know when to call it because if you keep pushing, you don’t care of yourself, you’re not taking mental breaks, you’re going to start making bad decisions. You’ve kind of got to watch yourself and just know at the end of the day, like all right, I’m obviously now … because you do that. You’ll start going uh-oh. Now, I’m picking the wrong properties. I’m not investing. I’m not looking at the right things. Oh, my gosh, I’m starting to make mistakes now. Oh, I didn’t check the taxes. I didn’t check the access. Something like that. You start making maybe potentially, making a bad decision. You’ve got to know when to just cut it off.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            Even if you think that I can’t stop now. I have to get through all these. Do you know what? It’s better that you cut it off and not make those bad decisions. Those are my three things to help if you’re mentally drained. Do you want to do that before I go to the other one?

Steven Butala:                   Do you have another one?

Jill DeWit:                            I have limited time is next.

Steven Butala:                   Oh, good.

Jill DeWit:                            Okay. Now, that addresses that point. Now, the realistic point, which is physical limited time. I know you have a different spin this.

Steven Butala:                   Oh, that was what I was going to say.

Jill DeWit:                            Okay.

Steven Butala:                   No, go ahead. This is good. I don’t have to do anything on this whole episode.

Jill DeWit:                            I really spent some time on this. This is important to me. This is on the inspiration side of the sheet.

Steven Butala:                   Okay.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   It really is.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you. That’s why. This is why we’re good together. You are really good at the, drill that into it. I’m making sure all of these other things are moving smoothly. Okay, so now you physically have limited time. What do you do? I said number one, I’m looking at my notes here. Create, I want you to try to create a schedule, as best you can with extra time in the A.M and the P.M. And this is for …

Steven Butala:                   Can I inject you real quick?

Jill DeWit:                            Right, this is for your working a full-time job, and you’re trying to build up your investment company on the side. I need you to try to carve out some time. What were you going to add?

Steven Butala:                   Let’s do some math, along the lines of what’s Jill saying.

Jill DeWit:                            Okay.

Steven Butala:                   Let’s just say it’s not 70 hours, it’s 80 hours a week.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   That’s 16 hours a day, five days a week.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   So, 16 hours a day, you have to have eight hours of sleep, that’s 24 hours. You have no time for yourself.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   You either work or sleep, work or sleep. I watched my, on a personal note, watched my mother do this and die when she was 64 years old. That’s all she did was work and sleep. She loved her job, truly, she was a psychiatrist, psychologist and she loved her job.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   I mean, she would pack in as many appointments as she could, go to bed, and come back. When we went to her funeral, everybody that had worked with her literally didn’t have a key to that place because nobody ever opened or locked up at the end of the day, or the beginning of the day.

Jill DeWit:                            She was always the first one there, and the last one to leave.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah, so working 80 hours a week, and sleeping, you know, six hours a night, there’s study, after study, after study, that says, you can’t.

Jill DeWit:                            You’re not going to be your best self.

Steven Butala:                   You know, I grew up in an environment where everybody bragged about it.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   Oh, I only need four or five hours of sleep is fine. It’s just not physiologically, it’s just going to kill you.

Jill DeWit:                            It doesn’t make sense. Exactly.

Steven Butala:                   And then, so let’s say you whittle it down to 60 hours a week and now you have four or five hours yourself before sleeping. You know, you better not have a family. You better not have yard work to do, or any type of social life in any way because you’ve got to spend, like Jill just said, four or five hours, or three or four hours a day turning your head off and doing something else. Hopefully, getting on a treadmill or whatever.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   That was to complete your point there.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   The math doesn’t work.

Jill DeWit:                            Right. You tied into, I want you to carve out time, but I want you to carve the right time, and not too much time, to coincide with what you’re saying.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            I want you to let your family in on this too, by the way. If you’re starting this investment company on the side, you have a real serious job going on, and you have a wife and kids, you need to let them know what you’re doing. You know, and we have done this. I have done this for the kids too. Okay, mommy’s doing a big project right now. I love you all, we might be eating out a little bit right now, or you know? There’s going to be a few little changes. I love you all, and I’m still going to make time for you when you need me, but here’s what’s going on. We do it with each other. Right now, doing a program. Right now we’re finishing up, and I know you’re getting ready for House Academy. I’m ready for it.

I know it’s coming. I know you’re going to be busy a little bit. There might be sometimes that we’re not going out as much, and that’s okay. You need to go to bed early, wake up fresh, you’ve got a big project. Big deal, we’ll catch up. It’s totally fine. I’m all good. But, we need to talk about it and make sure we’re all on the same page. Like when I slide under the door, seriously, you know, that would be the time that you could say, “Hey, babe. Look, I got this great thing I’m going on. I’m going to be in my office all day Sunday picking out a county. It’s going to be great.”

Steven Butala:                   Yeah, you’re good about that.

Jill DeWit:                            “Do you mind, will you mind making me a sandwich?” You know, something like that. I’m sure everybody’s going to be like …

Steven Butala:                   Is that good for you?

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah, exactly. Just let the person know. Don’t get mad at them if they’re not bring them a sandwich too, by the way. Ask, let them know what’s going on, and include them with everything. And then, my third point about this is you’re working the full-time job. You’ve got everything going on, the families on board, but there’s stuff that they can do. Sub out those tasks. Now might be the time to … if you’re mowing your own lawn, let’s sub that out.

Steven Butala:                   Yep.

Jill DeWit:                            Get someone else to take care of some of the minor errands.

Steven Butala:                   Absolutely.

Jill DeWit:                            And then, on a business level, maybe there’s pulling some data, some of the things that you need, spreadsheets filled out, taxes populated for something like that. Things that aren’t thinking that you don’t need to do.

Steven Butala:                   Absolutely.

Jill DeWit:                            Sub some of that out.

Steven Butala:                   That was my whole final point.

Jill DeWit:                            All good.

Steven Butala:                   This is awesome.

Jill DeWit:                            Thank you. Look it, we’re on the same page.

Steven Butala:                   In the Live event and in 2.0, I do a chapter called, Chasing Zero.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   Here’s the whole point to chasing zero, there’s all kinds of stuff. I watch people do this, and I’ve been cracking up my whole life about watching people do stuff that’s not necessary.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   If you buy a big house, if you’re a young couple, or a young person, and for whatever reason you choose to go buy a big house, way out in the suburbs, here’s what you have to look forward to, a tremendous amount of maintenance, a tremendous amount of yard work, and a tremendous amount of expenses that you haven’t budgeted, ridiculous commutes to wherever your job is.

Jill DeWit:                            Right.

Steven Butala:                   On and on and on. You should instead because chasing zero, especially if you’re young. You should be living in a one bedroom apartment. Better yet, a three- or four-bedroom house with 15 other people, so your rent is like $12.00, and you don’t have anything to do, and nobody cares that you’re cleaning anything, and there’s no cleaning lady, or any of that. Get rid of all the stuff, including people in your life that are stopping you from what you want to do. Mark [inaudible] has a book about this whole topic.

Jill DeWit:                            That’s for the young, the 21-year-old. Not for the 40-year-old.

Steven Butala:                   Okay, so if you’re 30 or 40 …

Jill DeWit:                            And you have a wife and kids.

Steven Butala:                   And you have a wife and two kids, they’re going to have to be on board like what Jill says.

Jill DeWit:                            That’s what I’m saying.

Steven Butala:                   You’re going to have to say, “These six or eight hours on Sunday for the next six months to 12 months, I have to do this because and then, we’ll have the rest of our lives to spend together.”

Jill DeWit:                            Exactly.

Steven Butala:                   You have to present it that way and follow through. The other benefit to that is, it’s in your head now. Now, it’s like, I don’t want to let my kids down.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   They’re still like really, really small. I’ll tuck them in every night, but you know, when they’re eight or nine, I can take them on a boat, drive them to school every day. That’s what we’re all working for here.

Jill DeWit:                            Right, or just to get rid of that job.

Steven Butala:                   Time management is imperative.

Jill DeWit:                            Yep.

Steven Butala:                   Look, please don’t get inspired by this and quit your job.

Jill DeWit:                            Yeah.

Steven Butala:                   That’s not what I’m saying at all. You know, every single person that’s in this group that I’ve had the fortunate experience of talking to about this topic, they all said some version of this. It’s true with both of us. “Man, I should’ve quit my job a year ago. I wanted to make sure.”

Jill DeWit:                            That’s good. You should do that.

Steven Butala:                   The whole point here is, it’s possible to have a 70 or 80 hour work week, let’s say 70, 60 or 70, especially on the weekends, but, you can’t do it forever. You have to have a plan to get out of that.

Jill DeWit:                            Exactly. Thank you.

Steven Butala:                   Join us next time where we discuss minor in possession of real estate.

Jill DeWit:                            This is going to be funny.  And we answer your questions. Post it on our online community, landinvestors.com. It’s free.

Steven Butala:                   You are not alone in your real estate ambition.

Jill DeWit:                            I had a lot to say about that.

Steven Butala:                   About what?

Jill DeWit:                            Do you know what I’m going to do too … this whole topic. I’m like, making [crosstalk].

Steven Butala:                   Minor possession.

Jill DeWit:                            No.

Steven Butala:                   Oh, I do too, yeah.

Jill DeWit:                            No, the topic we just covered.

Steven Butala:                   Yeah, I agree.

Jill DeWit:                            That was really good. I’m really glad that Tony brought that up because it’s important.

Steven Butala:                   Tony has a finance background, and I have a financing accounting background. We have a lot in common. I know what he’s doing, and he’s going to be fine.

Jill DeWit:                            Oh, yeah, but it’s hard right now.

Steven Butala:                   That’s right.

Jill DeWit:                            I get it.

Steven Butala:                   That whole industry is like that.

Jill DeWit:                            Oh, I get it.

Steven Butala:                   There’s something like large law firms.

Jill DeWit:                            Exactly.

Steven Butala:                   They use you.

Jill DeWit:                            They did.

Steven Butala:                   They use you until your half dead, and when you’re gone.

Jill DeWit:                            Isn’t it amazing? It’s amazing how much that we did all at one time to get us here right now. Sometimes, I look back, and I’m like, I don’t know if I have the … I probably do, but the energy.

Steven Butala:                   I’m going to ask you a personal question.

Jill DeWit:                            Ready.

Steven Butala:                   Was it worth it?

Jill DeWit:                            Heck yeah.

Steven Butala:                   Awesome answer. Me too. I don’t regret a damn thing.

Jill DeWit:                            You silly. I love it. Wherever you are listening or watching, please subscribe and rate us there.

Steven Butala:                   Oh, sorry. I missed my line.

Jill DeWit:                            That’s okay. We are Steve and Jill.

Steven Butala:                   We are Steve and Jill. Information.

Jill DeWit:                            And inspiration.

Steven Butala:                   To buy undervalued property.

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