Jack Thursday – How to Get a Girl Like Jill (LA 1821)
Jack Thursday – How to Get a Girl Like Jill (LA 1821)
Transcript:
Steven James Butala:
Steve and Jill here.
Jill K DeWit:
Hello.
Steven James Butala:
Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I’m Steven Jack Butala.
Jill K DeWit:
And I’m Jill Dewitt, broadcasting from sunny Southern California.
Steven James Butala:
Today’s Jack Thursday, and I’m going to talk about how to get a girl like Jill. There’s a lot of different ways this one can go today.
Jill K DeWit:
Yes, there are.
Steven James Butala:
I’ve pretty seriously piqued Jill’s interest in this topic. And so I’ll wait to fill her in and you after the question.
Jill K DeWit:
Well, at least even the way you word it is okay. It’s not like how to get by with a girl like Jill, just how to get through life.
Steven James Butala:
How to get over a girl like Jill.
Jill K DeWit:
How to get over [inaudible 00:00:42]… That’s right. Yeah. Depending how this goes. This is good. This perfect. Depending how today goes, tomorrow may or may not be how to get over a girl like Jill. I love it. Yep. She’s gone. That’s awesome.
Steven James Butala:
Before we get into it, let’s take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community. It’s free, and please don’t forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows you like.
Jill K DeWit:
Josiah wrote, “I have a good buddy who is a general contractor in Florida. He occasionally builds affordable housing. His cost to build a bread and butter basic SFR he buys, after he buys a lot. And then even before he breaks ground is about 80,000 bucks.” Wow. “On impact fees and permits.” Sheesh. So even if he gets a lot for free, he can barely get out of profit. My goodness. So Kevin wrote on, went on to write, “You know what? I had to pass on five acres inside a Missouri city property because the starter homes in the area would not support building anything but starter homes on small lots. I talked to builder and explained that even, who explained that even if I gave him the land, he couldn’t build a home there and make a profit without getting some grant money. So I said, ‘If this five acres was up in here, you could build with plenty of margin, like $300,000 and up. And he said, oh yeah, it’s just with that certain area.'”
We do that too. Sometimes when we’re on our Thursday calls and we’re looking at deals, “What’d you do this deal?” And we’re like… You’ll notice sometimes there’s areas that you just can’t find comps, right? There’s not a lot for sale, not a lot sold recently. And often for, I see it as a sign of celebration, but before I do that, I go, “Let’s just see what the houses are going for. And if the houses are going for a million, then it is a sign of celebration. But if the houses are going for $85,000, it’s not a sign of celebration,” or less, sometimes even less. So this is what everybody’s talking about here. There’s times. And there’s just areas that man, the way things are going right now, you can’t build a house for what it’s selling for.
Steven James Butala:
This is in the rant section of Discord.
Jill K DeWit:
Got it.
Steven James Butala:
These two members are-
Jill K DeWit:
Makes sense.
Steven James Butala:
… long time advanced members, both of them.
Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.
Steven James Butala:
I am… I’ve never in my entire career, in my 30+ year professional career in real estate, heard the noise called affordable housing. And I think it’s… This is Jack Thursday, by the way. So I get to talk about stuff I want.
Jill K DeWit:
Don’t you every day?
Steven James Butala:
No. It’s the Land Academy Show.
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, yeah. You do.
Steven James Butala:
It’s not the Jack Show.
Jill K DeWit:
Even off camera, I think you’re doing just fine.
Steven James Butala:
I have never heard anything like of… It’s just too… I can’t afford to live there.
Jill K DeWit:
Yeah. That’s true.
Steven James Butala:
Yeah. You can’t afford to live there. Well, wait a minute. I want to live there. All the cool stuff is right there. The ocean’s there, the fun stuff. All the great restaurants are there. I can’t afford to live there. Yeah.
Jill K DeWit:
That’s right.
Steven James Butala:
You can’t afford to live there
Jill K DeWit:
Unless you want to work three jobs.
Steven James Butala:
Just like Jill and I, our entire professional lives, until recently, we actually can afford to live there.
Jill K DeWit:
You know what? There’s a thing called downsizing. We’ve done that. There’s stuff you need to do when you have to do them. Sorry.
Steven James Butala:
No, it’s okay.
Jill K DeWit:
I’m jumping in.
Steven James Butala:
I mean, I want this to really sink in. Every other… I do a lot of research before the Thursday call and a lot of research, believe it or not, doesn’t look like it, but I do for this show. And every other article that I read is there’s we need more affordable housing. If we need more affordable housing and I don’t disagree, by the way. We do need more affordable housing. Then we need our municipalities and our government in general to stop punishing all of us, us land investors and general contractors and general builders, punishing up with fees.
Jill K DeWit:
$80,000 impact fees and permits, by the way. No kidding.
Steven James Butala:
Jill and I buy a lot of real estate and we don’t go vertical on it. We don’t build anything on it. But we do subdivide it or minor split it into smaller properties and then resell the individual APNs. I’ve been doing this for since the early 90s in several states. I can tell you now, used to be we could rewrite a description with a $50 fee. Submit it. Thanks very much. You guys did great. Here’s your new APNs. This would all happened in two weeks. And thanks for involving yourself in our county, we appreciate it. Expanding our property tax base. You took one APN and made it five or six or whatever the numbers end up being.
I just recently did one in the same county that I’ve been doing this for years and years and years, we had to do a survey that took four months, took a year to do the whole process. The survey was $25,000. We had all kinds of impact fees and the county was great. They’ve always been great there, but I’ll tell you, we probably spent $50,000 doing all to get those five APNs versus $50.
So the same people who I think are really complaining about lack of affordable housing, they’re the same people who believe that government should get bigger and government should be more involved in what we do. And they should generally make decisions for us because we can’t apparently do it for ourselves. So can’t have it both ways. Email me.
Jill K DeWit:
It’s Jack Thursday.
Steven James Butala:
I mean, email me and please let me know which way you want it.
Jill K DeWit:
It’s Jack Thursday. I’m sitting on my hands.
Steven James Butala:
Go ahead. I’m pretty confident you…
Jill K DeWit:
No, it’s okay.
Steven James Butala:
That’s it.
Jill K DeWit:
I’m just sitting on my hand.
Steven James Butala:
No, go ahead.
Jill K DeWit:
No, no, no, no. It’s… No seriously. It’s fine.
Steven James Butala:
[inaudible 00:06:38]… Well, it’s Jack Thursday and you already know that. And I’m going to talk about how to get a girl like Jill. Before you have any hope of getting any girl, you need to do a few things. And they involve staring at yourself in the mirror and wondering what kind of girl you want? What do you have to offer? And if it all pans out the way you want it, like you have a plan, do you really want a girl like Jill anyway?
Jill K DeWit:
What does that mean?
Steven James Butala:
Meaning can you handle it?
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, yeah.
Steven James Butala:
Be careful what you wish for.
Jill K DeWit:
Careful what you wish for. Yeah.
Steven James Butala:
The way that you get any girl is by, in my opinion-
Jill K DeWit:
Is it really about that today?
Steven James Butala:
Yeah.
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, I thought it was going to be business related.
Steven James Butala:
Like what? Like what?
Jill K DeWit:
Like the kind of partner I am.
Steven James Butala:
Well, I’ll it gets all that later. That was all… For Jill and I, look, I didn’t do something special-
Jill K DeWit:
[inaudible 00:07:33] Because right now, everybody, if they haven’t already, they have turned this off.
Steven James Butala:
No, I think they… I think, well, they turned it off because of the rants, affordable housing rant.
Jill K DeWit:
And then the whole political thing you got on.
Steven James Butala:
I don’t get politics at all.
Jill K DeWit:
No, I was just kidding.
Steven James Butala:
I took politics completely out of it.
Jill K DeWit:
Okay. All right.
Steven James Butala:
Just have to decide if you want what you want.
Jill K DeWit:
Right.
Steven James Butala:
So that’s what… That’s the same thing here. You got to decide what you want and if you actually get it, can you handle it?
Jill K DeWit:
Can you handle it?
Steven James Butala:
I can.
Jill K DeWit:
Okay.
Steven James Butala:
I can. Jill and I had a social relationship first. I was off buying and selling land relatively… Unsuccessfully.
Jill K DeWit:
You were… Stop it. You were success… That’s funny.
Steven James Butala:
Jill was off. She had her own stuff going on and we socially got together and it worked out it, very slowly but surely it worked out and I got Jill because she, probably in the bitter end, could live with most of the stuff that I had to offer.
Jill K DeWit:
I’m not going to say anything.
Steven James Butala:
No. I want you to get in on this.
Jill K DeWit:
No, it’s good. No.
Steven James Butala:
And so as years, couple years went by, we decided that we were going to do this together. Not-
Jill K DeWit:
Well, back up. Wasn’t it after you were paying attention to what I was doing in my job?
Steven James Butala:
Well, I’m not even getting to the professional part yet.
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, sorry.
Steven James Butala:
This is my point.
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, is it still personal? Sorry.
Steven James Butala:
Yeah. After probably two years, we started to realize that we wanted the same things. It wasn’t just a regular social relationship and that we did, or at least I did, really wanted to do it with her, not separately.
Jill K DeWit:
Thanks.
Steven James Butala:
Like I have done many times in the past and I think most people do. It’s just all separate. Everything’s separate. And everybody gets back together at 6:00 PM every night.
Jill K DeWit:
Right.
Steven James Butala:
And then they go at it again at seven hundred o’clock and the next morning, and for that amount of time, they just have a social relationship. That’s never what I wanted. And I didn’t really know, realize that until it was a couple years in with Jill socially. And it’s, we’re both very naturally saying, “Well, if we do this together over here, then maybe we will get ourselves out of an affordable housing situation.”
Jill K DeWit:
That’s awesome.
Steven James Butala:
And live where the grownups live.
Jill K DeWit:
Right? Yes. I like that.
Steven James Butala:
And so I think that’s a very natural way to get the partner that you want. It’s not the peacock dance and the first 20 minutes of, “Hey, you look beautiful. Can I buy you a drink?” That doesn’t work on anybody. Anybody who’s worth getting, it doesn’t work. I think.
Jill K DeWit:
No. My favorite is we’re the guys tried to single out the hot girl.
Steven James Butala:
What do you mean?
Jill K DeWit:
Like they pick on the hot girl.
Steven James Butala:
Pick on them?
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, yeah. Like girls in a circle… There’s a couple things girls in a circle… Have you ever read all this stuff?
Steven James Butala:
No.
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, yeah. Get them all in a circle and you try to… First, one of the attacks is get one away from the herd.
Steven James Butala:
Separate them from the herd.
Jill K DeWit:
Uh-huh. That’s another one. The other one is, too. You pick on the hot girl that make her feel unattractive.
Steven James Butala:
That’s outrageous. How do you know this stuff?
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, because haven’t you read those books? There’s books out there.
Steven James Butala:
I don’t read any books on this at all.
Jill K DeWit:
Oh, yeah. Anyway.
Steven James Butala:
So you have to first ask yourself, “Do I want a girl like Jill?” Because you would eat most guys up alive. Do you know that?
Jill K DeWit:
Really?
Steven James Butala:
Yeah. You’re intense man. And this is a pure compliments. It’s not a bad thing.
Jill K DeWit:
All right.
Steven James Butala:
I get along with that, with your personality very, very well. I understand… You have a type triple A personality. I think you expect a lot, but you also, your output just from an energy standpoint and a regular eight hour day is extraordinary.
Jill K DeWit:
You’re just saying that because I went to F-45 this morning.
Steven James Butala:
No, I mean, that’s just the latest example of your obsession with F-45, so which is these all compliments. There’s nothing negative about it.
Jill K DeWit:
Thanks.
Steven James Butala:
The flip side to, and I’ve been told this my entire life, the flip side is that you’re in a relationship with somebody that’s got a triple A personality, A-type personality, and you better get moving. You’re going to get run over or you’re going to run next to somebody like Jill.
Jill K DeWit:
You’re going to get run over or you’re going to get drug behind.
Steven James Butala:
Yeah. And then-
Jill K DeWit:
By the hair.
Steven James Butala:
… that only lasts for so long. Can’t get drug behind on anything.
Jill K DeWit:
I know.
Steven James Butala:
You got to run next to her.
Jill K DeWit:
Thank you.
Steven James Butala:
So the big issue is, do you want some of that?
Jill K DeWit:
The big issue? How do-
Steven James Butala:
The big issue.
Jill K DeWit:
The big issue.
Steven James Butala:
I see a lot of people want a lot stuff because they think it’s cool. Like a girl like Jill, because it is cool. And then they get it and it’s just a disaster. I see that more often than I see not getting a girl, just failing at getting a girl like Jill.
Jill K DeWit:
Thank you.
Steven James Butala:
Does any of this make sense at all?
Jill K DeWit:
Little bit. Yeah, it does actually. Well, I was thinking about you. So you can’t keep up with me. Sometimes you push me, you know that. Like today when I don’t want to be pushed.
Steven James Butala:
What happened today?
Jill K DeWit:
Well, we happen to be we’re recording this early and getting ready to go… No and, no, it’s a good thing. I think we push each other and I think that’s healthy versus… You know what’s healthy? We push each other. We certainly don’t bring each other down and we don’t drag each other down. We do the opposite, which is great, because I know couples that do that.
Steven James Butala:
Me too.
Jill K DeWit:
That-
Steven James Butala:
In fact I think that’s the norm.
Jill K DeWit:
Yeah. The more successful one is, the other one feels bad and then it’s just kind of [inaudible 00:13:05]. And then the other one doesn’t want to do that or even share that with them. And that’s sad.
Steven James Butala:
I think it’s a total… What you described is what I call the downward spiral. Everybody gets together. Everyone’s on the same page. One person grossly exceeds or excels. The other person is resentful because they’re probably not spending as much time as they could or should.
Jill K DeWit:
You know it’s funny? I think you and I, too, have a healthy competition. We’re both a little bit competitive. When I say a little bit, I’m being sarcastic. We have a lot of competition. You’re going to one up me over on this stuff. I’m going to one up you on the deals, and then it’s all going to be good though.
Steven James Butala:
You think?
Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.
Steven James Butala:
I never looked at it like competition.
Jill K DeWit:
Yeah, it kind of happens that way.
Steven James Butala:
I mean, competition with myself every single minute, but not… I don’t know. I never thought of it that way.
Jill K DeWit:
No, it’s good. But thank you. This has been nice. I appreciate this show. And I’m sorry, you had to listen to that. Happy you could join us today and I’m apologizing now. Just kidding. Again, five days a week, you can find us here on the Land Academy Show.
Steven James Butala:
Tomorrow’s Jill Friday. She’s going to talk about the top five millionaire habits. You are not alone in your real estate ambition.
Jill K DeWit:
And these are not necessarily like, “Oh, we all know them,” but it’s… I really put some time into this… You read an article and it had dumb stuff in there and we’re like, “That’s stupid.” That was just how to just get yourself out of debt habits for some of them.
Steven James Butala:
I just think that a lot of those articles are, like a lot of these articles are affordable housing. They just want you to click on it and read it. It doesn’t matter how actually stupid it is. They got you to read it because they got a catchy little title and it’s full of chalk full of stupidness. And that’s hopefully not what the show is.
Jill K DeWit:
No. So I really put some thought on like, what do I do-
Steven James Butala:
Jill is a multimillionaire. She’s going to tell you why.
Jill K DeWit:
Thanks.
Steven James Butala:
That’s really what the show is about tomorrow.
Jill K DeWit:
Well, yeah and I really put some thought into what makes me and us and the people that I know at Land Academy little bit different and there, I put five things together that you’re going to go, “Oh, if I adopt these things, stand a pretty good chance of doing it, too.”
Steven James Butala:
Notice the show’s not called how to get a guy like Jack.
Jill K DeWit:
No, it’s not. I’ll get back to you on that one. Thank you for tuning in. By the way, did you know if you are not a Land Academy member, oh, what’s all this Discord talk? Do you know you could see Discord? Yep. It’s live and available for you to peek at it. You can’t get at it, but you can peek at it. You want to see what conversations are going on and the kind of deals and things that we’re working on, check it out. Go to landinvestors.com. And on the top is a window into Discord.
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