There’s a Girl inside Jill Named Stacy (CFFL 0065)

There’s a Girl inside Jill Named Stacy (CFFL 0065)

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Steven:                Steve Butella here for LandAcademy. Welcome to our Cash Flow from Land Show. In this episode, I talk about Jill and the girl inside of Jill named Stacy. Stacy comes out when Jill is pretty much done with responsibility, and I love Stacy. We all do. What’s the show really all about? It’s about taking a break. Taking a break from work and from life and really just having a little bit of fun once in a while, which Jill doesn’t seem to have problems doing at all. Jill, I know Stacy’s not going to be with us today. Maybe that’s having for another show. I have to …

Jill DeWit:            I got to …

Steven:                My question to you is how are you … How did you get to be so good at turning off work and all this serious stuff in life, and really just … Like a switch you can flip it off sometimes and just have some fun.

Jill DeWit:            Okay, I would like to pause, and just iterate that I am not schizophrenic. Because that’s what it sounds like.

Steven:                It does when you think about that.

Jill DeWit:            It sounds like Jill, Stacy, look out, here she comes. Then I’m going to be around the corner talking to Stacy, and Stacy talks to Jill. No, that’s not at all what goes on.

Steven:                No, this is a complement.

Jill DeWit:            Thank you.

Steven:                I hope you see it that way.

Jill DeWit:            This is a Steve-ism. Steven came up with Stacy.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            All by himself.

Steven:                A long time ago.

Jill DeWit:            You did, a long time … You just, I don’t know where it was. We were out somewhere, and it was just one of those times where we’re whooping up, having some fun, and you’re like “I’m going to call you Stacy.” You know? It’s so …

Steven:                There’s a lot … Here’s the thing. There are a lot of people, some of them are women. Some of them that are men. That just are not … They can’t ever let their hair down.

Jill DeWit:            Oh.

Steven:                You know, and I … Neither one of us are like that at all.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (negative).

Steven:                We can … When the Fred Flinstone whistle rings, and the … It’s over. Work’s over. The shift bell rings, and it’s over.

Jill DeWit:            Yes.

Steven:                We … Jill and I don’t suffer from having a lot of, lack of fun.

Jill DeWit:            It’s true. It’s very true. You know what … You know, thank you, Steven. This is a really good topic. I didn’t even think about it, but it is … It’s funny, because it’s so my thing, the mental side of all this stuff. Not just the financial side of everything that we’re doing, but you do need to be able to shut it off. If you don’t let your hair down sometime, you will go crazy. I look at it like a diet. If you’re on a diet, and you eat … You know, you’re so rigid the whole week. When you have a week moment, you’re going to go crazy, and you’re going to blow what you just did, because you didn’t prepare for it. Slash however. If you’re dieting, and you’re doing everything great, and you allow yourself one meal and you know it’s come, you kind of planned for it. You know. Have that treat, whatever. Then you’re going to be better, consistent, and you’re going to get back on your diet, and going to be just okay. You got to plan for it.

Steven:                There’s this joke and a saying along the lines of what we’re talking about, about Catholic girls, and I’m not going to …

Jill DeWit:            Woah.

Steven:                This show is the most inappropriate venue to talk about that, ever.

Jill DeWit:            Am I supposed to know what this is, or is that all you’re going to say?

Steven:                That’s all I’m going to say.

Jill DeWit:            Okay, so everybody … For those listeners who know what Steven’s talking about, hello.

Steven:                Yeah. Enjoy your thoughts.

Jill DeWit:            Oh, my goodness.

Steven:                No, sometimes people, when you put them in a rigid cage, just like you’re saying.

Jill DeWit:            Yeah.

Steven:                When they have some freedom, they go nuts.

Jill DeWit:            Phew. Right.

Steven:                That’s all.

Jill DeWit:            Right.

Steven:                You know, and it’s those nutsy moments you got to be careful with sometimes.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative). Well it’s funny too, I think about …

Steven:                Were you … Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I have a lot of questions for you.

Jill DeWit:            Well Dave … Dave Ramsey even says, in his whole financial getting back on track, which I’m a firm believer of. We pay cash for cars. Any car. I don’t care what it is. We don’t finance things, but you also … Because you got to pay yourself. That’s one of the things about Dave Ramsey, though. If you don’t pay yourself, and have a little fun money, you’re going to go crazy, and you’re going to lose it, and you’re going to make some bad decisions.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            What’s your …

Steven:                I have a bunch of questions.

Jill DeWit:            Okay.

Steven:                Were you a class clown?

Jill DeWit:            Yes.

Steven:                So was I.

Jill DeWit:            Yes.

Steven:                Were you like, when you were in high school specifically, were you just like … Did you have a convertible with your hair flowing and just nuts all the time, going …

Jill DeWit:            Yes.

Steven:                Oh, my God. Did you stay out all night?

Jill DeWit:            Keep going. These are good questions.

Steven:                Get in trouble?

Jill DeWit:            Yes. Yes.

Steven:                Oh my gosh, Jill, really?

Jill DeWit:            Yes! Wait a minute. Hold … Hold on. I never let my job suffer.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            I never let my classes suffer.

Steven:                Okay, go.

Jill DeWit:            If I chose to do that, you better believe I rallied and I made it through whatever I had to get through. I never let it suffer. These are really good questions.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            Am I surprising you?

Steven:                No, not really. I mean no … No, you’re not.

Jill DeWit:            Okay.

Steven:                I mean there’s some, I … You’re one of the most responsible people I know, but it takes some time for you to get motivated to be to that point. I don’t think you just wake up that way.

Jill DeWit:            Wait, the have fun point?

Steven:                No, no. Just responsibility.

Jill DeWit:            Oh. Okay. That’s very true.

Steven:                Like I … I am responsible solely for the reason … The only reason I am responsible. Is because I want to … I want to earn … Earn the points and horse around.

Jill DeWit:            You know what’s so funny, now they come at a different way. Like “Well I can afford to horse around this way or I could afford that way. No matter what, I’m gonna horse around.”

Steven:                That’s exactly how I am.

Jill DeWit:            So you have …

Steven:                That is the constant and a responsibility is variable.

Jill DeWit:            Right.

Steven:                Not the other way around.

Jill DeWit:            Exactly. That’s just who we are.

Steven:                This is group therapy session right here.

Jill DeWit:            You know, I was kind of wondering. I was … When I saw the title, I was kind of thinking about how did I get here. Is it nature? Is it nurture? Is it because of my parents? When I say parents, I mean my dad. Or is it because … Because I take most after him?

Steven:                No, it really is a group therapy session.

Jill DeWit:            Sorry. Or is it because of where I grew up? It’s a nurture thing. Being in southern California, where you’re at the beach.

Steven:                Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jill DeWit:            Why wouldn’t you be at the beach? The sun’s shining.

Steven:                Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jill DeWit:            You plan for that. You save your quarters. We saved our quar … My mom had us save our quarters for the parking meter at the beach.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            How cool is that?

Steven:                Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jill DeWit:            So that was pretty. That’s what we did.

Steven:                I think it’s after being a parent, I honestly think it’s 95% nature and 5% nurture. We’re going to get all kinds of emails from that. I know we are.

Jill DeWit:            Well what?

Steven:                Because people write dissertations on this topics, and …

Jill DeWit:            Not nurture. Nature.

Steven:                I think it’s nature.

Jill DeWit:            Ah.

Steven:                I think … That’s just my personal experience. Please don’t send me an email. It’s my personal experience, I’m not a psychologist, psychiatrist, or any of that stuff. I just happen to have a silly talk show. Where I can give you my opinions like this. That’s it.

Jill DeWit:            I think it’s mmm …

Steven:                I think the way the kids are, they come out. That’s how they are. Then …

Jill DeWit:            You’re reversing. You mean nature, right?

Steven:                I mean nature.

Jill DeWit:            Oh, you’re right. Nature not nurture.

Steven:                Nature not nurture.

Jill DeWit:            Okay, you’re right. You’re right. I agree.

Steven:                I think if you put the same kid in a different, awful environment, they might be a little bit different. I’m saying in our socioeconomic …

Jill DeWit:            I agree.

Steven:                All the things being constant, the kid … You only can change a kid, plus or minus maybe 10%.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                Maybe. Probably less.

Jill DeWit:            We are so lucky, because we have all well-adjusted, calm, responsible …

Steven:                Responsible.

Jill DeWit:            Kids. That is clearly a sign of nature, because that’s not us.

Steven:                We are, all these, all kids, we are the two … We party the hardest.

Jill DeWit:            Oh, you mean of all of our … Our siblings?

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            Oh, yeah.

Steven:                No, no. Of our children.

Jill DeWit:            Oh, oh, yeah you’re right. Our children roll our eyes at us. Well here they go again.

Steven:                I know.

Jill DeWit:            That’s so great.

Steven:                This is more about, it’s supposed to be about Stacy.

Jill DeWit:            I’m sorry. So, okay. All right. Well the point is, the point is you got to let your hair down. Whatever it is for you. Where you won’t go crazy, and I … Because we have members in our LandAcademy community that I know are killing it. I want to make sure that they are taking some, taking a breather. Coming up for air and having some fun, and not burning out. Because if you don’t, you could burn out.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            I know there’s people that worked 40 hours a week in there, and they jump on board, and they get our program, and now they’re adding that much more on their plates, because they’re so excited and they want to get to the end.

Steven:                Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jill DeWit:            I get that, but don’t change a thing, but just make sure you’re factoring in some fun time, and some relaxing time, because you’ll be a better person. You’ll be a better parent. You’ll be a better employee. You’ll be a better everything.

Steven:                I know who those people are, because I work 7 days a week. I don’t work 8 hours a day or 10 hours a day, 7 days a week. I do … I get in front of a computer and I … The people that I correspond with, that are in our group, are … Especially on Sunday.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                Yeah. They might need a break.

Jill DeWit:            Yeah, that … I wasn’t there on Sunday.

Steven:                I know. You know what, you shouldn’t be. You shouldn’t be. Because we’re partners, and the stuff that you’re responsible for, which is customer contact and a lot of that kind of thing, you shouldn’t.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                It doesn’t happen on Sunday. The behind the scenes stuff does.

Jill DeWit:            Well, you and I both agree on this too that you don’t get a medal for working 80 hours everybody. You and I are both huge fans of …

Steven:                You’re right.

Jill DeWit:            Hey, if it takes me 6 hours and it takes you 12, I don’t know what to say. I’m done.

Steven:                You know what you get a medal for? You get a medal for killing it by … Just by working efficiently 40 hours a week.

Jill DeWit:            Yes.

Steven:                Or even 20.

Jill DeWit:            Exactly.

Steven:                My whole thing has always been, I … We don’t have a 9-5 gig here.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                You make your own hours. Get your stuff done. We’re all going to see whether or not you can do it. It’s not … This isn’t … If you’re hitting your numbers, and you’re working 20 hours a week, I’ll pay you full time.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative). That’s fair.

Steven:                You know what? I just think that’s …

Jill DeWit:            Does that apply to me?

Steven:                No. No.

Jill DeWit:            Okay, I’m just kidding.

Steven:                No, I … Jill, sometimes you crack me up. You know.

Jill DeWit:            Just kidding.

Steven:                At least try to say this like with finality. You can do whatever you want.

Jill DeWit:            I know. I’m just teasing.

Steven:                You really can.

Jill DeWit:            I’m just teasing. I know, and I do that. That’s like how I …

Steven:                Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jill DeWit:            Yep.

Steven:                Yesterday, we were talking about doing this podcast from different places in the world.

Jill DeWit:            Yes.

Steven:                Remember that?

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                You lit up just like … Stacy came out a little.

Jill DeWit:            That was Stacy.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            Yes. That was a great …

Steven:                We were almost to the point. We will be at this year, we will be at a point where, we could do a trip. I don’t know, whatever it, like …

Jill DeWit:            Hong Kong, or I don’t know.

Steven:                Well let’s just say we’re going to do a trip there anyway, for sake of argument.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                Because I’m sure the IRS isn’t listening to this at all. Let’s say we’re going to do a trip anyway, but we decided to make it a trip where we did a bunch of podcasts, or a daily podcast on the trip.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                You know, because the internet’s where we’re going to go anyway, I think that would be just mixing all of it like business and pleasure in all of it in a really good healthy way, and I think it would increase our revenue.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative). I agree.

Steven:                I know it would.

Jill DeWit:            We need to do that. Well we did some stuff, when we did some of our … Gosh, going on a year ago, when we were doing the LA TV episodes for awhile. We were doing those in California.

Steven:                Mm-hmm (affirmative). Right.

Jill DeWit:            Along the beach. We might have some of those coming up again too.

Steven:                You have a tough time focusing when you’re on vacation with work, or do you … Is it easier?

Jill DeWit:            It’s a little bit. Well this is a very good question. I have to mentally prepare myself to do X amount of hours of work, and then I can cut myself loose.

Steven:                That’s exactly what I do.

Jill DeWit:            Yeah.

Steven:                I have to … You know and some people say, “Well then it’s not a vacation at all.”

Jill DeWit:            Yeah, it is.

Steven:                Like I know some people, and this is not even Stacy. I know some people that just … They unplug their stuff. They’re no longer involved or anything, and they sit on the beach and would spray themselves. They’ll sit there or they’ll read like 6 books for like a week on vacation, and that … Then they turn their phone back on and go back to work. I can not do that for … I … There’s no way.

Jill DeWit:            I can do that.

Steven:                Can you?

Jill DeWit:            Well that’s what we just talked about. You were asking me questions. Can I shut it off? I can shut it off. No …

Steven:                I don’t … You know what? I think you think you can do that, but I … You and I …

Jill DeWit:            Yeah, I haven’t been good about it lately.

Steven:                Maybe it’s me. Maybe I just … I’m the bad influence on me.

Jill DeWit:            Yeah, I think you’re a bad influence on me. Just kidding. No, I used to be really good about that.

Steven:                No I mean like if you went on, with some of your friends. If you went on a trip like that, you probably wouldn’t talk about it. You probably could unplug everything.

Jill DeWit:            I could. It wouldn’t bother me.

Steven:                That’s what I’m saying. It’s not like me.

Jill DeWit:            You know, you know, you’re right. Would it eat away at me that I’m not checking my email? No.

Steven:                Do it …

Jill DeWit:            Do I feel responsible, so I do check my email, yes. That’s the difference right now. I feel like I have a lot of people that I’m coaching and helping, and a lot of things that we do, so I feel responsible to make sure everything’s okay, and check in. Could I easily say “All right.” I would set them up. In these times I’ve done it with our staff, I said “Hey, this weekend.” You remember I took this weekend in November.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            I said “I will not be available. Don’t even try.”

Steven:                Right.

Jill DeWit:            I was at a very special conference and I’m checking out. I did.

Steven:                Yeah, I’ve been on vacations with you, and I’m … The stuff that you’re responsible for at LandStay specifically, not as much of LandAcademy, you do … Our numbers are better when you’re not on vacation. I think that you really, because you want to really be on vacation, you just consolidate it all and really get it done fast, and it comes out …

Jill DeWit:            It’s true.

Steven:                Great.

Jill DeWit:            It’s true.

Steven:                Then Stacy comes back out.

Jill DeWit:            Oh, my goodness. You know I was just thinking, maybe my vanity plate should Stacy.

Steven:                I don’t think vanity plates should describe yourself in anyway. Actually, I don’t really believe in vanity plates, but that’s probably no surprise at all.

Jill DeWit:            I don’t … I haven’t had one in forever. You know, I go back and forth with it. Do I want everyone to know “Oh, yeah, that’s Jill’s car.” Not really. I don’t know.

Steven:                Yeah.

Jill DeWit:            We’ll see.

Steven:                That’s one of the … I bet you can come up with one that’s really interesting and funny.

Jill DeWit:            Right. Exactly.

Steven:                Those chances of that are happening are pretty slim.

Jill DeWit:            Hey, I got to … Did you watch the news this morning?

Steven:                Mm-hmm (negative). No, I didn’t. I was at work.

Jill DeWit:            Do you know anything what happened in the last 24 hours?

Steven:                No.

Jill DeWit:            David Bowie passed.

Steven:                Oh, no really?

Jill DeWit:            Yeah. 69 years old, cancer.

Steven:                Did … Oh, I didn’t even know he was … That’s awful.

Jill DeWit:            I know, he kept it quiet. I didn’t mean to dump it to you right here.

Steven:                No, that’s okay.

Jill DeWit:            I thought maybe you heard it, and I was going to have a little nice moment, because …

Steven:                Yeah. Yeah, that’s too bad.

Jill DeWit:            Who doesn’t love David Bowie?

Steven:                Right. That’s part of our …

Jill DeWit:            So cool.

Steven:                That was part of our social upbringing.

Jill DeWit:            Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Steven:                He was always a rebel.

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