Get GPS Coordinates at ParcelFact.com (CFFL 410)
Get GPS Coordinates at ParcelFact.com (CFFL 410)
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Jack Butala: Jack Butala and Jill Dewit.
Jill DeWit: Happy Friday!
Jack Butala: Welcome to our show, yeah it is Friday.
Jill DeWit: Yay!
Jack Butala: In this episode, Jill and I talk about getting GPS coordinates off of Parcelfact.com, a website that we either by the time this airs have rolled out or are days within rolling out. I’ll explain it in great detail but before I get into it, before I get into the boring reality of trying to get GPS codes in rural vacant land and how we solved in for ya, we’re going to take a question posted by one of our members on Landacademy.com, our online community. It’s free. And I should tell ya, this question, it gets answered multiple ways and times in Success Plant. So, I literally copied and pasted it. It’s a very good question and two members weighed in on answering the other member’s question-
Jill DeWit: I love it.
Jack Butala: And, it’s my point to make… it’s my way of making this point. Success Plant, it’s free by the way, is a fantastic way to get all of your quirky concerns or questions out of the way by people who are only doing this probably a month more, or two months longer than you are.
Jill DeWit: Mm-hmm (affirmative). That’s true, you’re right. We were all there once.
Jack Butala: Yup.
Jill DeWit: So, I love it. And everybody… you know what, somebody helped them so they help the next person who helps the next person, it’s awesome.
Jack Butala: And you’re the ring leader.
Jill DeWit: Thank you very much.
Jack Butala: Ring leader of the helpers.
Jill DeWit: Thank you. I love it. Alright, so here’s the question. Jason wrote: “Most of what I see on here is people asking about their first mailer, but what about the second? I just sent my first mailer, twenty three hundred pieces,” Nice.
Jack Butala: Oh my gosh that’s-
Jill DeWit: “I know it’ll be a week or two before it hits,” Be ready, brace yourself.
Jack Butala: Oh my God.
Jill DeWit: “And I’m now working on a long range plan to keep the marketing up and the deal flow coming. How long should I wait to send a second and third mailer? And, how many pieces should be in those mailers? Thanks in advance.” This is so good.
Jack Butala: I mean, and now Kevin’s gonna answer the question there at Success Plant but, I’ll tell ya, I can tell exactly where he got it all in the mail and now he’s on Success Plant, he’s like “Ah, I wonder what’s gonna happen here,” but-
Jill DeWit: It’s like the calm before the storm.
Jack Butala: We’re never gonna hear from him again, he’s so successful and so busy.
Jill DeWit: Exactly. Can’t get him on the phone.
Jack Butala: Right.
Jill DeWit: Alright, so then here’s how the… it’s like a string of answers so, first Kevin wrote in: “Jason, it’s up to you. I had to take my first mailer and resulting property purchases slowly. I already run a small business from home, plus while taking calls and buying property, we were creating our work flow and trying to define it as it went. This took a lot of effort for us and lots of time. I decided to invest the time now to get the business model the way I want it to be so that every part of it is ready to outsource in the future.” Wow.
Jack Butala: That’s brilliant.
Jill DeWit: I know. He continues to say, “Others have mailed over a thousand per month or more and just took off.”
Jack Butala: Yeah.
Jill DeWit: “Not only-”
Jack Butala: That’s what I would do.
Jill DeWit: “Did I not have the business organization to start that quickly, but I didn’t have the cash. So, think about the cash situation. If you buy twenty properties for five hundred dollars each, you will need ten thousand dollars. The second mailer starts coming in before you have sold the first batch. If the second mailer outsold the first batch, then you need another ten thousand dollars more. If you buy larger properties at higher value areas, then you need even more cash.”
Jack Butala: This is great advice.
Jill DeWit: Some good stuff to think about, I really love this. So here’s another one. Okay so, Nat weighed in and here’s what Nat wrote: “I only mail the same list only three times total every three to four months. I don’t think it matters how many letters are sent. I blast out six hundred at a minimum.”
Jack Butala: So hold on a second-
Jill DeWit: This is his whole different strategy.
Jack Butala: Yeah, I love this.
Jill DeWit: Yeah.
Jack Butala: So he does the same exact list.
Jill DeWit: Uh-huh. Three to four months.
Jack Butala: Three or four times total over three or four months. This is great.
Jill DeWit: This is the strategy, I love this, and then Nat shares a strategy. This is really, really cool. Here he said, “Here’s my protocol: first, mailing.”
Jack Butala: Hey, if you wanna read all this and study it, it’s all on Success Plant.
Jill DeWit: Yeah, I love it. Now, here’s Nat’s process. The first one is first mail goes out, offer price, done. Now, he circles back around, I’m sure the ones that he didn’t hear from, and the second mailing goes out and he increases the offer price by ten to twenty percent to see if that smokes out some more people.
Jack Butala: How creative is that?
Jill DeWit: Isn’t this interesting? Alright, and then if there’s anything left over that he didn’t hear from, he circles back around a third time and he mails it decreasing the offer price by five to ten percent. “This all assumes a good response rate, two to five percent, and not a lot of mail is returned with bad mailing addresses. This has now been solved but, if you need a month or two to catch your breath after the first mailing, that’s okay, it’s up to you.”
Jack Butala: And you will.
Jill DeWit: Yeah, after that-
Jack Butala: That’s a pretty large mailer.
Jill DeWit: Yeah.
Jack Butala: Twenty five hundred. We’re assuming you [inaudible 00:05:03] the way that I review it in the Cash, Wealth, and Land program, we’re assuming that.
Jill DeWit: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack Butala: You’re gonna get any [inaudible 00:05:13] did stuff basically right. He’s gonna do a bunch of deals. He’s gonna run out of money.
Jill DeWit: Exactly.
Jack Butala: He’s just awesome.
Jill DeWit: That’s exactly-
Jack Butala: That’s another reason to use Success Plant. Get in there and raise some money. There’s a bunch of money guys that, for whatever reason, don’t wanna think too hard, like us.
Jill DeWit: I just put up the cash.
Jack Butala: Yeah, they just put the cash up.
Jill DeWit: And split the profit.
Jack Butala: Right.
Jill DeWit: So, that’s good.
Jack Butala: Great advice. If you have a question or if you wanna be in the show, please reach out to either one of us on Landacademy.com. Soon to be Landinvestors.com. If you’d like to see all the products that we’re releasing over 2017, go over to Landinvestors.com, click on the resources on the bottom there, and there’s tons of land investor specific resources there we’re custom designing. The ones that we use, we’re just making ’em pretty.
Jill DeWit: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack Butala: Available to you. Today’s topic: Get GPS coordinates from Parcelfact.com, that’s one of the resources we’re talking about. [inaudible 00:06:12] the show. Turns out that it’s very difficult for most people, me included…
Jill DeWit: Me included.
Jack Butala: To find rural vacant property on the internet.
Jill DeWit: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack Butala: In the olden days, we used to get an atlas out of the trunk of the car and try to find it that way, believe it or not. Then we got DVD packages for topomaps and things like that. In this day and age, we’re all used to the internet and looking up our home address and looking at the building in an eighth of a second. Well, rural vacant land doesn’t have a mailing address so what they have are an assessor’s parcel number, which is how they figure out how much property tax to assess, and then ultimately, GPS coordinates. When you get the GPS coordinates, if you’ve done this ever, then you’re home free cause you’re gonna find it on Google Earth or any other resource on the internet… take good screenshots of it, maybe shoot a little movie while you’re talking. On our You Tube channel, I’ve got a bunch of property that I’ve done, for our properties, to sell it. But, you’ve gotta get those GPS coordinates and it’s a real big struggle for most people.
Again, when I started… I include myself in this. Me and the IT staff racked our brains to try to figure this out. This is what we came up with: Parcelfact.com It’s a three step process to input… the site looks like Google. You put in the state and the county and then the assessor’s parcel number. You always have that, always. With the data that we’re mailing out, or if you look it up on the internet, or it’s on a tax bill, you always have that information, always. If you don’t know what an assessor’s parcel number is, you should listen to a different show.
Jill DeWit: Go in Success Plant, you’ll get it. [crosstalk 00:08:01].
Jack Butala: It’s a core point. It pops right up. Assuming you put the number in correctly, it pops right up.
Jill DeWit: It’s so great.
Jack Butala: A hundred and forty eight million units. There are about a hundred and forty eight million properties in this country. That’s our largest databases that we’re pulling from.
Jill DeWit: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack Butala: As a bonus, there’s a tremendous… this is why we call it Parcelfact, not Parcelfind… a tremendous amount of information about that specific property. Who owns it? How long they’ve owned it, whether there’s any leans on it. I mean, it’s like, forty or fifty or sixty units, database unit facts about the property. And very, very, quickly: we spent a lot of time on this and a lot of resources on it and it is the number one requested product by all of our members because well, I presented it on one of our weekly calls and the first response that we got is still the best. “Well, I guess I can fire my VA now.”
Jill DeWit: Exactly!
Jack Butala: So no, if you’re brand new at this, or even if you’re really seasoned… If you’re brand new at this, it’s very hard to find property. Especially in places like Texas, which I’m not gonna go into. Texas is on a different system, it’s based on the railroads. If you’re a veteran at this like we are, then you know for sure it’s very hard to find property. I spend, even at this point in my career, a ton of time tracking down property. Well, we solved it, so hopefully by the time this airs the beta will be released, or the full version. Database is done, the backend hard stuff’s done, we’re just waiting for the front-end pretty people. The artists-
Jill DeWit: Front-end pretty people, is that me?
Jack Butala: Yes! Front-end pretty person.
Jill DeWit: Thank you!
Jack Butala: Gosh, that’s a perfect description of you.
Jill DeWit: Thanks.
Jack Butala: Front-end.
Jill DeWit: Oh!
Jack Butala: Front-end pretty person.
Jill DeWit: Calling me front-end. Front-end Jill! What the heck?
Jack Butala: [inaudible 00:09:49] take that?
Jill DeWit: I don’t know. We’re not gonna buy that .com. I gotta share this: Jack, in his spare time, like there is any… but it’s a hobby for you and I love it. You just love finding cool .coms and they’re really good! You have a lot.
Jack Butala: There are some good ones.
Jill DeWit: Yes.
Jack Butala: I bought Smart Slice.
Jill DeWit: Nice!
Jack Butala: Yeah. So, you know, these things sell for a lot.
Jill DeWit: It’s funny.
Jack Butala: It’s fun.
Jill DeWit: I had somebody reach out to me today, by the way, because we had JackJill.com.
Jack Butala: Yeah.
Jill DeWit: They said, “Hey, I have a website if you’re interested in it!” And I’m like, “No.” It’s Jack F-O-R Jill.
Jack Butala: Jack for Jill?
Jill DeWit: I know.
Jack Butala: That [inaudible 00:10:31] thirty cents.
Jill DeWit: It should be. Somebody reached out to me saying, “It’s so similar, would you wanna buy this?” Uhm, no.
Jack Butala: Jack for Jill.
Jill DeWit: No, I’m good, thank you. What would you with Jack for Jill, anyway? Tell me some more of your good ones.
Jack Butala: I have this all computerized, so. The computer chooses the stuff based on the criteria that I put in there and then I look at it at the end and so I’ve got very strict criteria like, two syllables and eight characters is my first choice.
Jill DeWit: Oh, I like that.
Jack Butala: Eight characters or less.
Jill DeWit: Okay.
Jack Butala: Like, well, Parcelfact is not eight, it’s a little bit long… well, it’s nine. But it’s two syllables. Parcel fact, three syllables, but okay, so it broke all my rules.
Jill DeWit: Well, you dug that hole, didn’t ya?
Jack Butala: Don’t be like me. That’s what I tell the kids. Don’t be like your father.
Jill DeWit: Yeah. Oh my gosh. That was really good.
Jack Butala: What’s another thing your dad said like, a couple shows ago you said?
Jill DeWit: Oh no.
Jack Butala: Do as I say, not as I do.
Jill DeWit: Aw, shucks.
Jack Butala: Explain that. It doesn’t matter.
Jill DeWit: No, it doesn’t matter. I’m trying to think of some of his good sayings, he had some-
Jack Butala: All kidding aside, and this what the show is about. So, if you’re one of the people who’s just listening to this show for the content, and you don’t think this is funny or entertaining at all, you can turn it off now cause we’re just gonna horse around for the rest of the time.
Jill DeWit: You’re so silly. Remember old school, by the way? I know a lot of our members, a lot of people know this, but you were staring at a legal description and it’s section, township, range, and you’re trying to go… Oh God.
Jack Butala: That’s right.
Jill DeWit: And you’re trying to… gotta work it backwards. This solves all of that. You don’t have to-
Jack Butala: Yeah, so with your membership, you currently get membership through Earthpoint.US. The guy developed the site a few years ago and that’s actually how we find property now until we develop this.
Jill DeWit: You did a whole video on this, by the way. It’s on our You Tube channel where Jack was showing how to do it and go on Earthpoint-
Jack Butala: The loops and balances are the most… well, actually [inaudible 00:12:30].
Jill DeWit: Yeah, and figure out… and it’s so interesting that it’s not talked about a lot. There’s a lot of people in our world, I’m wondering how does everybody else do it, by the way?
Jack Butala: Well, the people… this is a real product that we packaged up in a custom made website to make it simple, and I asked those guys all that. All these questions, I said, “Who else uses this and why?” And they… in great detail, I described how we’re gonna use it and why and they’re like, “Oh, we didn’t even know that, that was a problem.” And here’s why, because the vast majority of people in the real estate business… there’s a physical address.
Jill DeWit: Right. Oh, that’s true.
Jack Butala: Our product type is not like that. So, you have to back into it with Earthpoint.net. I do videos on it and that’s how we [inaudible 00:13:11] but honestly, there’s a few counties, I’ll name one right now that no matter how I try, there’s properties, I can’t find ’em. One of them is Dallas, New Mexico. There’s multiple counties in Texas that I’ve passed and I know are great deals because… and this is me twenty five years in this. I can’t find the property!
Jill DeWit: Exactly.
Jack Butala: I call the assessor, I say, “Where’s this property?” He says, “I honestly can’t… I don’t know.” It’s that much of a problem, I’m not exaggerating.
Jill DeWit: Well, some of ’em, too, I know you can’t even get ’em on the phone even to ask them to mail you a map the old way.
Jack Butala: Yeah, and then they do mail you a map and it’s really hit or miss because what you need is a plat map. Hopefully, in the description in the bottom right corner is the printed out plat map like it’s 1931.
Jill DeWit: Right.
Jack Butala: Has a range township section in it.
Jill DeWit: Like, if they got the right one.
Jack Butala: Then, you get to the section, if you’re not bored enough by now, you get to the section which is the square miles, six hundred and forty square acres. You gotta find it… it’s a part of that.
Jill DeWit: Right.
Jack Butala: So, the northeast [inaudible 00:14:09]. You gotta work it back, it’s takes an hour.
Jill DeWit: Yeah.
Jack Butala: This takes less than a second. Literally.
Jill DeWit: When we were testing this, that was the coolest thing. You put in the numbers and we were going, one, one thousand… Oop! There it is!
Jack Butala: Yeah.
Jill DeWit: It was like, ah.
Jack Butala: If that’s not enough, it delivers a usable map so you can scroll with it.
Jill DeWit: Yeah.
Jack Butala: You can scrunch your fingers. It goes in and out, zoom in and out, and it gives you a bunch of still shots automatically at certain altitudes that you can use in a posting. So, if you do buy the property…
Jill DeWit: It’s Friday.
Jack Butala: If you’re just listening to this, you’re not watching it, you’re only getting half of the silly.
Jill DeWit: I’m making gestures like you enlarge and shrink things on your phone or on a display. Thank you.
Jack Butala: So, you get a bunch of still shots is my point. You can use them to sell the property if you end up buying it. If you’re in this business at all, or in any type of online selling anything, you know how difficult it is to create pictures and how time consuming it is. This does it all automatically for you. It truly is a pretty cool product.
Jill DeWit: Exactly.
Jack Butala: I’m really… I probably don’t sound like it because a million hours of development time in this, but I’m super excited to use it.
Jill DeWit: You haven’t slept in two weeks because you’re working on this, but we know you’re excited.
Jack Butala: Yeah, exactly.
Jill DeWit: Good.
Jack Butala: Hey, join us in another episode where Jack and Jill discuss… where we discuss how to use information, that’s me.
Jill DeWit: And inspiration, that’s me!
Jack Butala: Just about anything you want!
Jill DeWit: We use it everyday to buy property for half of what it’s worth and not lose our place immediately!
Jack Butala: You’re not alone in your real estate ambition! I can’t wait til we release this thing.
Jill DeWit: I know, it’s gonna rock.
Jack Butala: We’ve got, now that the deal’s signed, the premium API.
Jill DeWit: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack Butala: And it’s got thirty eight or forty five, I don’t remember, it’s a big number.
Jill DeWit: Right.
Jack Butala: Of variables. And so, we’re just trying to make it look pretty. It’s all functional.
Jill DeWit: It’s gonna be so cool. I’m excited.
Jack Butala: I think it’s gonna catch on like wild fire.
Jill DeWit: Oh my gosh, it’s gonna save so many people so much time and money!
Jack Butala: You know, I forgot to mention this. We release it to our members first and see what they think. Well, they already told us.
Jill DeWit: They already know. They’re excited.
Jack Butala: And then, we’ll release it to the public at some point for a certain fee, but it’ll be cheap.
Jill DeWit: It’ll be cool.
Jack Butala: We cut a good deal on the front-end, we always do.
Jill DeWit: Yeah.
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