Buying Land with Emotion is a Fast Track to Failure (LA 1341)

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Buying Land with Emotion is a Fast Track to Failure (LA 1341)

Buying Land with Emotion is a Fast Track to Failure (LA 1341)

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Steven Butala:
Steve and Jill here.

Jill DeWit:
Hello.

Steven Butala:
Welcome to the Land Academy Show, Entertaining Land Investment Talk. I’m Steven Jack Butala.

Jill DeWit:
And I’m Jill DeWit, broadcasting from sunny Southern California.

Steven Butala:
Today, jill and I talk about buying land with emotion and how it’s a fast track to failure. Jill and I talked about this a little bit on Monday, but we’re going to bring it home now. If you can’t, cannot be emotional about this. So, you can’t see something in these deals, that’s not there, just because you want to be successful financially.

Jill DeWit:
Or because the seller tells you there’s something great there.

Steven Butala:
You’ve got to look at the facts, just the cold facts. And then, even when you doubt it, you need to reprice it so that it… We’ll get into the details in a minute here, but if you have any doubts, you need to reprice it so all your doubts are gone. And if you’re finding that you’re not looking at enough deals, you’re choosing these deals that you’re questioning, you just got to send out more mail.
There’s a real easy fix for all this stuff.

Jill DeWit:
That’s true.

Steven Butala:
In a minute here, I’ll tell you. I would say, the reason we’re doing this show. We’ve done this topic a few times. I’ll tell you, I was a victim of this in the beginning. I hated where I worked so much, and wanted a side gig to become a permanent… I wanted to be a permanent real estate investor that I funded. That was my childhood dream, honestly. And it worked. And so I was seeing things that weren’t there. I wanted to do these deals and get the thing launched so bad, that I made some mistakes.

Jill DeWit:
I didn’t know that. Thank you for sharing that.

Steven Butala:
So I’ll talk about it. Before we get into it though, let’s take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community. It’s free.

Jill DeWit:
Do you know what just happened there for a second, I was going to say, though? It sounds like truth time. Remember?

Steven Butala:
Yeah, it was truth time.

Jill DeWit:
It was cute. About a week and a half ago, I did a Live on Facebook. It was a good one too. It was a case study about a couple of deals and doing level one due diligence. Anyway, it was cute. Somebody put in the remarks, whatever I said, she was like, “Truth time.” I was like, “Yep. That’s what that was.” So we’ll cover truth time again in a minute here.
All right, so a different… This isn’t you, is it?

Steven Butala:
No.

Jill DeWit:
Okay. A different Steven wrote this question. “I have one phone number-

Steven Butala:
If I wrote a faux question, the name would be like-

Jill DeWit:
Burt?

Steven Butala:
Yeah. Earnest.

Jill DeWit:
Okay. Terminator. Let’s see. “I have one phone number that I use for my offer letters for all areas that I mail. And the area code is obviously not local to people receiving the letter. What is your opinion on having a local phone number for each area you mail, that all ring to one main number one called? My only concern with that strategy is the phone number will not match my mailing address, which I like to keep the same forever. Thanks.” Okay, wait. I have to think about this. So it’s not… I have one phone number and it’s not local, but he…

Steven Butala:
You live in California, you’re mailing Missouri.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

Steven Butala:
You got to have a California address. You’re going to go get a Missouri phone number. They don’t match.

Jill DeWit:
He’s going to keep the same Missouri phone number and the California address forever? T.

Steven Butala:
hat’s what he’s asking.

Jill DeWit:
Oh, I don’t necessarily like that.

Steven Butala:
Well, what do you do?

Jill DeWit:
Okay, here’s what I do. Forever, we had an Arizona address and a Scottsdale address and a Scottsdale phone number and we still have them. That’s still the main stuff/however, I have tested and liked the outcome, adding a huh, Northern California phone number and address when I’m mailing that area, and another state, I’ll just say Tennessee, one for mailing parts there. Now here’s the thing, I’m now exploring other parts, I’m kind of done with that. I’m exploring other parts of states east. I’m using Tennessee, I’m testing that next. I think it’s going to be received well. The only time I’ve heard it, and you have more experience on this than me, is that, when you’re mailing… There’s parts of the country that may not love Scottsdale or southern… Los Angeles or New York, or who knows what it is. It might be… There have been people that have reported, and I’m going to let you weigh in on your experience with that. Go ahead.

Steven Butala:
Well, I have two things to say and one of them is a question. So, let’s say we are mailing Oklahoma or Tennessee or whatever. And we successfully got… Do you get a mailing address there?

Jill DeWit:
Yep.

Steven Butala:
And you get a phone number.

Jill DeWit:
Yep.

Steven Butala:
Do you keep those forever?

Jill DeWit:
Yep.

Steven Butala:
How much does it cost?

Jill DeWit:
Cheap. $20 bucks.

Steven Butala:
For a month.

Jill DeWit:
Oh, yeah.

Steven Butala:
Forever.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah.

Steven Butala:
Okay.

Jill DeWit:
If that.

Steven Butala:
So, there’s no reason…

Jill DeWit:
[crosstalk 00:05:02].

Steven Butala:
And the reason you want to keep it forever is because they will call two to five years from now.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

Steven Butala:
Because, on a letter. And that’s so cheap to… It doesn’t matter, it’s cheap in the scheme of things. My second point is, which, most of us don’t answer our phones now. I guess if you’re set up for this, you’re going to answer the phone no matter what the caller ID is, because you want to know if it’s a seller, a potential seller. There’s no circumstance on this planet, that I would ever answer a phone call that comes in from a 212 area code, which is New York, Manhattan, New York.
And, I have a list of phone numbers that I’m not going to go… Area codes, for a lot of reasons, that I would never answer, ever.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

Steven Butala:
212 is number one. I think it’s packed. I don’t know what the other two area codes are that, in chronological order from New York, but, it shows up that way. Would I answer it from 313, which is where I’m from as a child? I’d pick up every single call that’s 313. So yeah, there’s a huge, huge issue with people not picking up the phone. And I don’t know about you guys, but the political campaigns, the amount of spam hell calls, robocalls, that I’m getting, on both sides, about how to vote and what the issues are. And they’ve figured this out. They bought a bank of numbers, probably years ago, or they’re renting them or leasing them. I don’t know how it works and I don’t want to know. But they… I still have an area, Jill and I both still have Scottsdale numbers in our cell phones. And they’ve figured out how to… Those zip codes, those area codes, I mean, they figured out how to make it look like it’s one of your friends.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), it’s true. Exactly. So-

Steven Butala:
So that said, I do think it’s really important to, where you’re mailing, to have an area code from there.

Jill DeWit:
What about regions? Because this is what I’m testing right now.

Steven Butala:
I think that’s not good.

Jill DeWit:
You don’t think a region’s good?

Steven Butala:
No, I think-

Jill DeWit:
I guess I’ll let you know on this next one.

Steven Butala:
I think the people in Kansas think that people in Missouri are awesome. No, it’s always a rivalry. The closer they are together, the worse it is.

Jill DeWit:
Well then how do you solve it? You have 20 phone numbers you keep forever?

Steven Butala:
Yeah.

Jill DeWit:
Okay.

Steven Butala:
Yeah. And you can buy a phone number. If you have a phone system like we do, you just buy it.

Jill DeWit:
That’s true.

Steven Butala:
You don’t lease it.

Jill DeWit:
That’s what we do.

Steven Butala:
Roll it in and forward it.

Jill DeWit:
True. So, we poured it into our big phone system. So then what’s great about that is, it’s Pantera that we use as the kind of parent company where all the calls are recorded. I can flip-flop, I can really easy from my phone, I can make it look like I’m dialing out from whatever number I choose, because it’s all ported in. So the call comes in and the call goes out the same. And then I can forward those numbers to whoever I want to answer the phone.

Steven Butala:
So our-

Jill DeWit:
It’s kind of a big deal.

Steven Butala:
We have a very diverse group that has a different take on all doing the same thing, buying and selling land. And our group is packed full of people who’ve never left their state. And they’re… I call them the dusty boots group. Their boots are dusty. They’ll only buy properties in Oklahoma. They live in Oklahoma, they love Oklahoma, they know every square inch of it. They know the people at the county level.

Jill DeWit:
And that’s great.

Steven Butala:
They get deals done.

Jill DeWit:
That’s fine.

Steven Butala:
And they’ve had the same phone number. It’s probably got a curly code, curly cord hanging in their kitchen, and they do deals that way. So you don’t have to… Jill and I talk about, we’re all over the country, that’s just our personality. I don’t know why, but that’s just how it is. And, I’ve often said during retirement, I’m going to be one of those people. I’ll be one of those guys that goes and drives two hours, goes and looks at a piece of property, talks-

Jill DeWit:
Really?

Steven Butala:
Yeah. I would love to do that.

Jill DeWit:
Really?

Steven Butala:
Yeah.

Jill DeWit:
I didn’t know that.

Steven Butala:
Absolutely.

Jill DeWit:
Uh oh, this ties into the emotion. There we go. It ties right into the show.

Steven Butala:
You know what? Let’s parlay into it.

Jill DeWit:
Okay.

Steven Butala:
And this topic, buying land with emotion is a fast track to failure, this is the meat of the show.

Jill DeWit:
Please tell me how you’re going to drive to the local town and spend some time with local folk, and how that’s going to roll without getting emotional.

Steven Butala:
I didn’t say that it’s going to happen. I said it’s in the back of my head as a very logical retirement situation for me.

Jill DeWit:
Okay, but seriously, I do want to know, real quick before we get to the show, the topic. What is it that you want to do in retirement?

Steven Butala:
So, here’s what I…

Jill DeWit:
How will this play out?

Steven Butala:
The retirement thing?

Jill DeWit:
Yeah, this is truth time. We’re going to have a family meeting for a moment, because something just got dropped on me. And I kind of want to know, if you don’t mind sharing a little bit about-

Steven Butala:
Here’s my plan that Jill doesn’t know about.

Jill DeWit:
… what you would like to do.

Steven Butala:
Here’s my entire plan.

Jill DeWit:
All right.

Steven Butala:
At some point, we turn all of this Land Academy thing over to very viable, whatever, not the land acquisition part, but Land Academy and all that part, and it goes on, somehow. That’s part number one.

Jill DeWit:
Like, 10 or so years from now.

Steven Butala:
Yeah, yeah, way the heck long.

Jill DeWit:
Long time from now.

Steven Butala:
And we take a pile cash that we’ve made from buying and selling land, and we go pay cash for something somewhere. Liquidate some assets, move some stuff around. And so our cost of living is very low. And then, take a look at the local market. In fact, the local land market plays into the decision factor about where this might happen, because it’s not going to happen in Los Angeles County, I’ll tell you that.

Jill DeWit:
This is all new information for me.

Steven Butala:
This is all goes on in my head.

Jill DeWit:
Oh my gosh.

Steven Butala:
And, okay. If she starts yelling at me-

Jill DeWit:
He kind of forgets to share.

Steven Butala:
… we’ll have to cut this off.

Jill DeWit:
We’re going to have a couple of houses is what I hear.

Steven Butala:
We might.

Jill DeWit:
Uh-huh (affirmative), go ahead.

Steven Butala:
And so, let’s say, if the planets are aligned and this all happens, the first thing I’m going to do, is I’m going to send out a mailer and I’m going to look for property that we identify as a logical acquisition candidate, where we can either just take it and resell it as it is. But in the back of my head, I know that you can subdivide or split property very effectively, if you have a relationship with the people at the county and they like you, and you’re involved in the local community and all of that. That’s how the entitlements and parcel splits really get done effectively, like a good old boys thing. And so, I don’t have… Now the boots are really dusty. I have no problem… It’s crazy profitable how much you can make, and it’d be fun. So that’s not the emotion that I’m talking about.

Jill DeWit:
Okay, that I understand. That makes sense. I thought there was a whole, just because you want to love it and feel it and get to know the community. And I don’t know where you were going there.

Steven Butala:
No.

Jill DeWit:
Okay.

Steven Butala:
No, the emotion that I’m talking about is this.

Jill DeWit:
Which is not a bad thing, I apologize.

Steven Butala:
The emotion that I’m talking about is, I’ll paint a picture. Actually, I’m going to paint my picture 25 years ago. I hate My job. I’m making good money, great money, so I can’t walk away. I know that I want to do something else. I have this vision in my head, just like this vision that I described just now. There’s this thing I want to do in the future.
So, rewind 25 years. I’ve got this vision about buying and selling land. I know it works, I tested it a few times. So, I’m going to send out… And back then, it wasn’t sending mail out, it was send faxes out to… If you go read our ebook and stuff, if you don’t have anything to do, go read the Land Academy ebook, and you’ll know our whole history.
But I would send faxes out to real estate agents, and ask them if they had any super cheap property. Because I could get that data back then. I could get… Back then, this was before RealQuest, you couldn’t send letters, even if you wanted to. Send faxes to real estate agent and say, “Hey, I’d love to buy all the rural vacant land you have, at $500 bucks a lot or less.” And it worked, because I was the only one doing it in the entire country.
And so I would go buy these properties. And when I’m looking at these deals… They’re real estate agents, so they’re born negotiators, they’ll say, “Not $500, $600.” Or whatever, some number. And negotiation, it’s not that I’m not good at it, I just can’t stand it. And so, you start to see, when you get emotional, and you want to get out of your job or your relationship or you want to move forward or you’ve got this vision, you start to see things that aren’t there.
Just like some people who want to get married really bad, start to see stuff that, all your friends are saying, “That guy’s the biggest idiot there ever was. In fact, how much money have you loaned him this month?” A mountain of red flags. And you’re like, “No, no, it’s fine. because he’s-”

Jill DeWit:
“He’ll get a job.”

Steven Butala:
Yeah, “He’ll get it. He’ll get it. I just need more time to get in there, get into his head.”

Jill DeWit:
“I know I can fix this.”

Steven Butala:
So I had that with real estate deals and that’s what I talk about emotion. Emotion is going to wreck your career really fast. And I paid for it. I did a couple of deals… It didn’t wreck anything, but I’ll tell you what it did, pretty dramatically delayed where I wanted to go. And that’s the real tragedy here. It’s not that it’s probably going to wreck your career or some tragedy is going to happen or any of that. It’s just going to delay getting there successfully.
So there’s no place for emotion at all in any of this. Every Thursday, Jill and I have the member call webinar where we review everybody’s deals. It’s called, would you do this deal. And we are constantly in there saying, “I love this… I know you have it under contract for $30,000 bucks. I love it at $18,000, you can’t lose. $30,000 is probably about what you should be selling it for, not buying it. You should buy it for $18,000 and sell it for $30,000, probably sell it in a week, take all the stress out of it.” Back in the day, I would have gone ahead and paid $30,000 for it. Because I just want it to happen. You don’t seem to have that problem, Jill. And it’s the biggest compliment ever.

Jill DeWit:
Thank you.

Steven Butala:
You never have.

Jill DeWit:
I never did. I always went into this… Because I never… It was a widget to me. A piece of dirt was a widget, it didn’t matter what it was. I never… You taught me the pictures you taught me how to post them, and got me rolling there, selling them easily. So all I saw is bank balance.

Steven Butala:
For the first ten-

Jill DeWit:
And that was like the greatest thing.

Steven Butala:
I think you’ve had… I’m just stating the facts here. You’ve kind of had me to lean on, just to make sure the deal’s okay and stuff.

Jill DeWit:
Of course.

Steven Butala:
And my experience. The first 10 years of this, I was sitting at my kitchen table, by myself, without ParcelFact, without RealQuest, without any help at all, at all, anyway, and without anyone to bounce this stuff off of-

Jill DeWit:
It’s true.

Steven Butala:
… in any way, without partners. So, it’s like, you only do that for so long where it’s like, “I want to get this thing into second gear.”

Jill DeWit:
Well, that’s what I was lucky to have you, and I think, how people see us now. And they can bounce it off us in our community. And we’ve said this a lot. I wish I had me. I wish we had us, when I was starting. I had you, at least, you had nobody.

Steven Butala:
And then some stuff’s going to go… My second part of the emotion part is, stuff always goes sideways. Stuff goes sideways in transactions. And these are about the easiest types of real estate deals you can do. You buy it for cash, you sell it for cash. [inaudible 00:16:22] involved. The more expensive this property gets, and the more out of the desert you get, like, let’s say, the properties that we’re getting in now are amazing. They’re all over the country, they’re very diverse. They come with their own set of circumstances and it’s not hard to deconstruct and get through really positively.
A big topic right now for us in Land Academy, is perk tests and water, and whether or not the thing’s buildable. And for whatever reason, that’s just a hot topic. Jill and I laugh about it all the time. One guy will perk it, one guy won’t, or there used to be a well, and there’s all these circumstances and stuff, and it’s good to know all that, but it’s not, in the end, really going to dramatically affect what you resell it for, it’s just not. And so I understand when you’re new, you want to get to the bottom of everything.
So when you start to get emotional about these little things that go on, it’s only standing in your way. For instance, if a perk test for you, is a big deal, and the property doesn’t perk, then just kill the deal and move on to the next one. And have another cup of coffee and forget it.

Jill DeWit:
You got to bake that cost into your business though, is the only thing.

Steven Butala:
Yeah, you can’t… The last thing you want to do is get emotional about it and go cry in the corner and say, “I did something wrong. And I should’ve known about this perk test.” And beat yourself up about it and yell at your spouse or whatever. That’s the last thing you want to do. It’ll kill your real estate career faster than anything. Just keep moving forward. Just barrel through.

Jill DeWit:
You know what my best tip is? I have one tip and this is all I have to say on it. And then for me is, the best way to overcome this, is be too busy with good deals. You won’t have time to get emotional.

Steven Butala:
Yeah.

Jill DeWit:
If you send out enough mail and you have multiple deals to review every day, then you won’t have time to spend six hours on this one and three days on that one. Because, you can do that. You can spend that much time being lost in a deal, trying to find the right guy to do a survey and a perk and waiting for calls from the county, waiting for maps from the county, waiting for this for the County, just to even decide if you want to buy it.

Steven Butala:
Yeah. Like the same exact [inaudible 00:18:23]. And that goes with everything. So you’ve got a buyer, they call, they said they want to buy the property, you haven’t heard from them in two days. You start crying about it. “I thought I had it sold. I didn’t do… I did something… I didn’t qualify that…” Forget all that. He’s just not a buyer. That’s it. “Next, next, next parcel.” That’s what I say.

Jill DeWit:
Beautiful, thank you.
Happy you could join us today. Monday through Friday, you can find us right here, on the Land Academy Show.

Steven Butala:
Tomorrow the episode on the Land Academy Show is called, the correlation between the housing market and the land market. You are not alone in your real estate ambition. All this stuff with housing is happening right now. All I see, and maybe it’s because of how I use Google, are announcements about forbearance, and which zip codes are foreclosing and interest rates are at an all time low and people are moving out of San Francisco, and I’ve never seen so much media coverage and actual data being supplied to investors and real estate agents. It’s just, the industry is on fire in a really good way. So what’s the real correlation… And then nothing, land is crickets. You don’t hear anything about land, ever. It’s always been like that. Land is overlooked by everyone. So what’s the correlation or the relationship with that? Well, we’ll talk about it tomorrow.

Jill DeWit:
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Steven Butala:
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Steven Butala:
… to buy undervalued property.

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Concierge Data+ (with data) Included mailers each month (data + concierge + mailer + postage). Our team will do your data for it and get it out the door.
9,000 mailers
PatLive introduction at no cost We will help you establish your first script and get PatLive set up on your behalf to answer your phones.
$500 value
Transaction Coordinator Use of our personal Transaction Coordinator team to manage your deals. Trained and ready to go!
$7,500 value
AirTable Ready-for-you CRM managed by your personal Land Academy Pro Transaction Coordinator
$100 value
Personal Consulting 1 on 1 personal consulting with our Transaction Coordinator each week.
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Regular Office Hours Regular office hours with Jack and Jill + our staff. Private for LA Pro Members Only. (Think Career Path Office Hours)
$2,500 value
ParcelFact ParcelFact is included in your LA Pro membership with unlimited pulls.
$150 value
FREE Career Path Access
$23,000 value
Land Academy No more separate charges - Land Academy is included with LA Pro Membership. This includes all education, tools, support, and future releases.
$300 value
Subtotal: $8,550 value
Mail Value: $11,250 value
Total Value: $42,800
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Gold

$19,120

per Month

Concierge Data+ (with data) Included mailers each month (data + concierge + mailer + postage). Our team will do your data for it and get it out the door.
12,000 mailers
PatLive introduction at no cost We will help you establish your first script and get PatLive set up on your behalf to answer your phones.
$500 value
Transaction Coordinator Use of our personal Transaction Coordinator team to manage your deals. Trained and ready to go!
$7,500 value
AirTable Ready-for-you CRM managed by your personal Land Academy Pro Transaction Coordinator
$100 value
Personal Consulting 1 on 1 personal consulting with our Transaction Coordinator each week.
$1,000 value
Regular Office Hours Regular office hours with Jack and Jill + our staff. Private for LA Pro Members Only. (Think Career Path Office Hours)
$2,500 value
ParcelFact ParcelFact is included in your LA Pro membership with unlimited pulls.
$150 value
FREE Career Path Access
$23,000 value
Land Academy No more separate charges - Land Academy is included with LA Pro Membership. This includes all education, tools, support, and future releases.
$300 value
Subtotal: $9,550 value
Mail Value: $15,000 value
Total Value: $47,550
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Platinum

$23,650

per Month

Concierge Data+ (with data) Included mailers each month (data + concierge + mailer + postage). Our team will do your data for it and get it out the door.
15,000 mailers
PatLive introduction at no cost We will help you establish your first script and get PatLive set up on your behalf to answer your phones.
$500 value
Transaction Coordinator Use of our personal Transaction Coordinator team to manage your deals. Trained and ready to go!
$7,500 value
AirTable Ready-for-you CRM managed by your personal Land Academy Pro Transaction Coordinator
$100 value
Personal Consulting 1 on 1 personal consulting with our Transaction Coordinator each week.
$1,000 value
Regular Office Hours Regular office hours with Jack and Jill + our staff. Private for LA Pro Members Only. (Think Career Path Office Hours)
$2,500 value
ParcelFact ParcelFact is included in your LA Pro membership with unlimited pulls.
$150 value
FREE Career Path Access
$23,000 value
Land Academy No more separate charges - Land Academy is included with LA Pro Membership. This includes all education, tools, support, and future releases.
$300 value
Subtotal: $12,050 value
Mail Value: $18,750 value
Total Value: $53,800
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Black

$28,180

per Month

Concierge Data+ (with data) Included mailers each month (data + concierge + mailer + postage). Our team will do your data for it and get it out the door.
18,000 mailers
PatLive introduction at no cost We will help you establish your first script and get PatLive set up on your behalf to answer your phones.
$500 value
Transaction Coordinator Use of our personal Transaction Coordinator team to manage your deals. Trained and ready to go!
$7,500 value
AirTable Ready-for-you CRM managed by your personal Land Academy Pro Transaction Coordinator
$100 value
Personal Consulting 1 on 1 personal consulting with our Transaction Coordinator each week.
$1,000 value
Regular Office Hours Regular office hours with Jack and Jill + our staff. Private for LA Pro Members Only. (Think Career Path Office Hours)
$2,500 value
ParcelFact ParcelFact is included in your LA Pro membership with unlimited pulls.
$150 value
FREE Career Path Access
$23,000 value
Land Academy No more separate charges - Land Academy is included with LA Pro Membership. This includes all education, tools, support, and future releases.
$300 value
Subtotal: $12,050 value
Mail Value: $22,500 value
Total Value: $57,550
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Disclaimer: *We have a monthly “use it or lose it” policy with mail and data – Land Academy PRO is designed to keep you on-track and consistent.

To cancel, all packages require a 30 day notice to move you back down to regular Land Academy membership.

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Scheduling a Career Path interview call is currently on hold and will resume closer to Fall 2024 as we approach Career Path 10.

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