How Much do Flood Zones Really Matter? (LA 1531)

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How Much do Flood Zones Really Matter? (LA 1531)

How Much do Flood Zones Really Matter? (LA 1531)

Transcript:

S Jack Butala:
Steve and Jill here.

Jill DeWit:
Hey.

S Jack Butala:
Welcome to The Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I’m Steven Jack Butala.

Jill DeWit:
And I’m Jill DeWit, broadcasting from sunny, southern California.

S Jack Butala:
Today, Jill and I talk about the topic called how much do flood zones really matter?

Jill DeWit:
Are we still talking about this?

S Jack Butala:
What the heck are flood zones?

Jill DeWit:
Really? Is this really … This is important? Yes, it is/however, is it worth spending weeks on this? Mm-mm (negative). We’re going to talk about it. There’s a lot of discussion going on in this, way too much discussion on this.

S Jack Butala:
Federal government has taken it upon themselves …

Jill DeWit:
Once again.

S Jack Butala:
… to map out the …

Jill DeWit:
Once again.

S Jack Butala:
That goes without saying.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

S Jack Butala:
To map out the entire country and tell us all where the flood zones are.

Jill DeWit:
That’s nice.

S Jack Butala:
I’ll let you decided if that’s a good thing or a bad thing. I personally think it’s a good thing. And they gauge it in a map about when stuff floods … and it always does, always … where the water should go and what should be built there. And so, we’ll talk about if your property’s in a flood zone, exactly what to do.

Jill DeWit:
How excited should you really get?

S Jack Butala:
This is one of Jill’s favorite topics.

Jill DeWit:
Oh, I love this.

S Jack Butala:
She loves talking about flood zones.

Jill DeWit:
Oh, sure.

S Jack Butala:
Driving for dollars.

Jill DeWit:
Oh, yeah.

S Jack Butala:
She loves talking about data.

Jill DeWit:
[crosstalk 00:01:21] agents, yeah.

S Jack Butala:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jill DeWit:
I love how long things take.

S Jack Butala:
Jill had an interview. I keep thinking about this, I don’t know why. Jill hired a personal assistant recently. And she had an interview, and she comes back from these interviews … This is an in-person hire, so they work next to her.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

S Jack Butala:
They don’t work in Canada.

Jill DeWit:
Remotely, yeah.

S Jack Butala:
Yeah, and so, she came back from this interview. And as always, I’m like, “How did it go?” I mean, I’m secretly hoping that she found the right person.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah.

S Jack Butala:
And Jill walks through the door and says, “She likes pretty things.”

Jill DeWit:
Yeah, not going to work. Not going to work.

S Jack Butala:
Like, floral arrangements. And there’s nothing wrong with floral arrangements, but that’s just not the first thing you want somebody to say on an interview as a personal assistant.

Jill DeWit:
Like, “Where’s my desk going to be? And what’s it going to look like?” Huh? What?

S Jack Butala:
Before we get into that, let’s take a question posted by one of our members on thelandinvestors.com online community. It’s free, and if you’re already with us, check out discord.

Jill DeWit:
Deanna wrote, “Hi. I thought I would post here seeking inspiration. I signed up for Land Academy in September, 2020. I sent out maybe 2,000 to 2,500 mailers thus far. I had quite a bit of call backs from sellers who were interested. I’ve not actually bought any property, for I do not necessarily have the capital to do so. I instead, have a few active option contracts, and also reached out to a few investors, but to no avail on the investors. The properties I have under option have been there now for three to five months. Option is difficult, because the seller wants what the seller wants, so it seems that the price is usually too high. I figured I will go at it anyway, because I’m not losing anything out of it. Now that it has been seven months and I still have not made a deal, I’m feeling a little disheartened and already looking at other career paths, but I know this one can be very successful and lucrative. I assume I should set up more mail. I’m having a hard time putting more and more money into the game and have yet to see any of it come back. I would love to hear some advice or words of inspiration, whatever you’ve got that you’re open to share with me.”

Jill DeWit:
And then, you … What was that note?

S Jack Butala:
It’s a note to us.

Jill DeWit:
Oh.

S Jack Butala:
There are probably 15 people that responded to this in Land Investors.

Jill DeWit:
Did they say knock it off of the options?

S Jack Butala:
Some of them said, “Here’s my advice, pull yourself up by your boot straps and close some deals.”

Jill DeWit:
Yep, buy it.

S Jack Butala:
One person said, “That’s what the Thursday calls are for, for you … ” Every Thursday, Jill and I do a webinar for the members.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

S Jack Butala:
And it became, “Would you do this deal?”

Jill DeWit:
A lot of it.

S Jack Butala:
And so for hours, we review people’s deals and give people’s opinions, as do everybody else on the call. Like, “Yeah, I would do it,” or, “Yeah, I’ll fund it.”

Jill DeWit:
Yeah.

S Jack Butala:
It became a huge success and a huge benefit to being a part of Land Academy.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

S Jack Butala:
And so, this person for whatever reason … I can go on and on about the responses. And if you care, you should go to Land Investors and look this up, listener, I mean. You got to … This is a classic example of taking the ball to the 50 yard line.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah.

S Jack Butala:
She did everything right. She got the mailers out, she obviously chose the right place to send mail. People are interested. Options suck. You should never do an option.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), mm-hmm (affirmative).

S Jack Butala:
Especially at the beginning of your career. It’s complicated, it’s riddled with negativity and stigma, and people that have to spray themselves off with Lysol at the end of every day are really good at options.

S Jack Butala:
And so what you need to do is buy some property real cheap with confidence.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

S Jack Butala:
And if you don’t have any money, call us.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah.

S Jack Butala:
There’s …

Jill DeWit:
There’s plenty of money sitting around here.

S Jack Butala:
Yesterday, the question in this slot of the episode was a person professional funder, that’s ready to fund your deals if they’re good.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). I almost have to let some people funding deals, like I’ll fund it, and then somebody else got it before me, I’m like, “Hey, good for you.”

Jill DeWit:
But there’s a lot of money in this group.

S Jack Butala:
So, we talked about career path yesterday. Dena’s … Is it Deanna?

Jill DeWit:
Deanna.

S Jack Butala:
Deanna’s roadblock is, she can get to generate deals, and she doesn’t have the confidence yet to know if they’re good.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

S Jack Butala:
That is such a solvable, easy roadblock in my opinion.

Jill DeWit:
Right.

S Jack Butala:
That’s what Land Academy is for. We have a whole thing in Discord now where you can … It’s called Would You Do This Deal. And people are using it. This week for some reason, there’s probably 25 properties in there.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

S Jack Butala:
And people are just jumping all over it, saying, “Heck yes, I’d do this deal,” or, “No way, and here’s why.”

Jill DeWit:
There’s a couple different things that could be going on too, Deanna. Number one, we cover the money and what to do, and just get going. But you’re saying the sellers want what the sellers want. I think those should be dealers you probably kick into the curb.

Jill DeWit:
If the sellers are asking too much money, and now you’re putting it out there and it’s three to five months, and you have no bites …

S Jack Butala:
It’s not a deal.

Jill DeWit:
You either, yeah, you’re either not reaching the right people, or it’s overpriced. And why is it overpriced? Because you’re agreeing to buy it for too much. So, you need to kind of … I would start fresh, come back at this a different way, and do all the things that we talked about.

S Jack Butala:
Don’t give up.

Jill DeWit:
No, no, don’t give up. Don’t look at another … I mean, I would really challenge somebody to come forward. I would love to hear what other way could you, especially in this climate right now, make the returns that we make. Can you think of any other product type? Because if it’s out there, we’ll do it.

S Jack Butala:
You know how to generate leads.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah.

S Jack Butala:
Let’s call them leads. You know how to generate potential deals. Here’s my gut, and this happens with every career path, there’s somebody, or every group that we have, there’s somebody … Boy, I say this, and the light bulb goes off over their head. You have to have somebody like Jill contact these people.

Jill DeWit:
Thanks, there’s that.

S Jack Butala:
Or for me, it was a lot of years, a lot of very painful phone calls and painful work days for me.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah, but you did it.

S Jack Butala:
Yes, I did it, and I got through it. And I was reasonably successful at it. Nothing like what Jill is. You have to find somebody in your life, and there’s tons of people in our group. You’re already in the group.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

S Jack Butala:
That can make these phone calls back for you where you split the deal. And they turn these properties transactions into deals. You did the hard part, in my opinion. You figured out the data, you got it in the mail.

Jill DeWit:
You got your phone ringing.

S Jack Butala:
Exactly. There’s always deals in there. If they’re calling back saying, “Yeah, I’m interested in selling,” you need somebody like this to turn it into a deal, and then babysit it through.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), very good. Thank you.

S Jack Butala:
Today’s topic, how much do flood zones really matter? This is the meat of the show.

Jill DeWit:
Okay, this comes up every few months, probably. Or throughout the year, people get hung up on flood zones. Why? Well, one of it is, we check up and we show you where to do this. We know, we have an overlay on … I don’t know if it’s on Parcel Fact, but it’s on Neighbor Scoop. It will be on Parcel Fact here soon.

S Jack Butala:
Can I set this up?

Jill DeWit:
Okay.

S Jack Butala:
A property comes back from your mailer, you go into Neighbor Scoop and you click on the little flood thing that we created, and it’s a literal real-time overlay from FEMA.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

S Jack Butala:
Federal Emergency Management Administration. And your property’s either in a flood zone, or it’s not. Well great, I don’t want to buy any properties in a flood zone. This is where the issues becomes … This is where it becomes an issue. It’s like, yeah, it’s in a flood zone. But … And then there’s 50 buts, and that’s what Jill’s going to talk about. Go ahead.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), well like number one, that was a perfect setup. Number one, if you come back, if you’re saying, “I’m brand new, I don’t want to do any deals in a flood zone.” Okay, here’s the thing. I guess you’re not doing anything in Phoenix.

S Jack Butala:
Or a lot of metropolitan areas, or the state of Louisiana.

Jill DeWit:
Exactly.

S Jack Butala:
And Alabama, and Florida.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, that’s true, Florida’s a good one.

S Jack Butala:
Oh, and South Carolina, and most of southern Texas.

Jill DeWit:
So what you need to do, I’m going to talk about the big picture stuff, and then we’ll talk about some details, like what’s really important. So the thing is, you have to take perspective. There are a lot of places that are in flood zones, and it’s solvable.

Jill DeWit:
So you’ll notice when you look at your property. It comes in, you click on it. It’s in the flood zone, but hold on a moment. You look and you see building, building, building, building, building, building, building. All these buildings are in the flood zone.

Jill DeWit:
Okay, there’s ding, ding, that’s insight number one. I don’t need to panic. They’ve solved it. It might be something really small, like the foundation has to be three inches above, it just can’t be whatever. There’s usually a little thing like that. And we’re going to talk more about that.

Jill DeWit:
But my other big thing is …

S Jack Butala:
Are we?

Jill DeWit:
Oh, you want to talk [inaudible 00:10:21]? Why?

S Jack Butala:
I can make this so simple.

Jill DeWit:
Go ahead, you talk.

S Jack Butala:
I have one word for you to figure out whether or not you should buy a property in or around a flood zone, and it’s relativity.

Jill DeWit:
There you go.

S Jack Butala:
One word. If your property, if you pull up a property, and it’s not in a FEMA flood zone, then you don’t care about this topic, and actually maybe you should turn off your radio or however you listen at this.

Jill DeWit:
A radio.

S Jack Butala:
Listen to some music.

Jill DeWit:
A radio.

S Jack Butala:
Turn off the podcast. There’s other podcasts out there.

Jill DeWit:
There we go. Jeez. Go ahead.

S Jack Butala:
Here’s what really happens, and why this hits our customer service so much. My property’s in a flood plain, what should I do? To which my answer is this, what’s going on with the other properties relative to this property? Pan out in Neighbor Scoop, and there’s a flood zone running through some metropolitan area, and there’s nothing built there at all.

S Jack Butala:
You can actually watch where they stopped building around this flood zone, and your property’s in that flood zone, don’t buy it.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), now you know.

S Jack Butala:
Now you know.

Jill DeWit:
Yeah, it’s easy to see.

S Jack Butala:
If you, on the other hand, pull the property up, click on the little flood zone thing on Neighbor Scoop, and your property is in every single property on the whole screen is in a flood zone, and it’s completely developed, like a metropolitan area like Phoenix and Louisiana … There’s tons of places. The entire state of Florida is in a flood zone. Yet, they still build on it, because whoever is issuing permits to build stuff, they’ve gotten around that mentally. And the insurance companies have gotten around it, and that’s just the way it is.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), and they know what to do, to make concessions to make it okay.

S Jack Butala:
So, if you’re making a …

Jill DeWit:
Like the foundation.

S Jack Butala:
You’re looking at a piece of property, and every single property right around it is built with a house on it, and they all have the same flood zones, you’re going to be good.

Jill DeWit:
That’s funny.

S Jack Butala:
In general.

Jill DeWit:
I was watching a House Hunters on HGTV, and they were doing a build. And it wasn’t House Hunters, it was some show on TV. But anyway, they were building this home in Florida, and wherever this home was, every single one of them, they had to be way up off the ground. So it was like, 10 feet. So every house was on stilts, and you park your car under there, because they don’t care about the car kind of thing.

Jill DeWit:
So you watch, there’s things like that that goes on, and that’s how people solve it. So it’s not an end of the world situation. I have one last point I can make, if I’m [crosstalk 00:12:49].

S Jack Butala:
Yeah, I have some stuff to say at the end.

Jill DeWit:
Okay, good. My one last point to make is, please make sure you’re not just making up excuses and using this as a thing, like, “Oh, I can’t do this.” Because some people do that. Things come back, and they’re wonderful deals. And they find 16 things, like they’re trying to find too many problems, and it’s usually an indication like they’re afraid to pull the trigger and buy it. And I just want to caution you that that’s not you. Use the relativity gauge.

S Jack Butala:
The people that signed your offer and contacted you, they already own property in a flood zone.

Jill DeWit:
That’s true. They bought it in a flood zone.

S Jack Butala:
So now, you have to ask yourself this, they signed my offer, they’ve owned it. Let’s say they bought it for 20 thousand bucks a few years ago. You sent out an offer for eight thousand and they signed it and said, “Yeah, I do want to sell this property.” And so, you take a little screen shot. You send it back to them and say, “You already know your property’s in a flood zone. It’s probably not build able. How about I give you a thousand bucks and just end the misery for you? Because I know I can sell it for two thousand.

S Jack Butala:
Is there anything wrong with that financially or ethically? Absolutely not. Somebody assigned an APN to flood zone property, and somebody expects you to pay taxes on that, meaning the county. So there’s always a deal there.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

S Jack Butala:
Usability is for the property that where you want to make a bunch of dough. But there’s always some number where all real estate works, or most or all, with very, very few exceptions.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). I think we’ve covered it, and I’m sure there’s a lot of notes in Discord on that, too. And Land Investors, and just ask us questions. We’ll keep answering.

S Jack Butala:
This is a puzzle, this business.

Jill DeWit:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), little bit.

S Jack Butala:
It’s not like day trading where you buy a piece of stock, it goes up or down, and you resell it, and then pat yourself on the back and go get a martini. That’s not this business model. There’s a lot of moving parts and great wealth to be made as a consequence to that.

Jill DeWit:
Excellent. Happy you joined us today. Five days a week, you can find us right here on The Land Academy Show.

S Jack Butala:
Tomorrow, the episode on The Land Academy Show? Well, it’s Jack Thursday where I talk about counties you should never send mail to in 2021. You are not alone in your real estate ambition.

Jill DeWit:
Everybody loves that stuff.

S Jack Butala:
Loves what?

Jill DeWit:
Or, [inaudible 00:15:06] like a secret county list.

S Jack Butala:
No, there’s nothing secret about these terrible counties.

Jill DeWit:
This is true, this is awesome. If you need access to any sort of ownership or property details like we just talked about, including owner phone numbers and FEMA flood map overlays, check out Neighborscoop.com or Parcelfact.com created by investors … That’s us … for investors like you.

Jill DeWit:
We’re Steve and Jill.

S Jack Butala:
We’re Steve and Jill. Information …

Jill DeWit:
And inspiration.

S Jack Butala:
… to buy undervalued property.

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$28,180

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Concierge Data+ (with data) Included mailers each month (data + concierge + mailer + postage). Our team will do your data for it and get it out the door.
18,000 mailers
PatLive introduction at no cost We will help you establish your first script and get PatLive set up on your behalf to answer your phones.
$500 value
Transaction Coordinator Use of our personal Transaction Coordinator team to manage your deals. Trained and ready to go!
$7,500 value
AirTable Ready-for-you CRM managed by your personal Land Academy Pro Transaction Coordinator
$100 value
Personal Consulting 1 on 1 personal consulting with our Transaction Coordinator each week.
$1,000 value
Regular Office Hours Regular office hours with Jack and Jill + our staff. Private for LA Pro Members Only. (Think Career Path Office Hours)
$2,500 value
ParcelFact ParcelFact is included in your LA Pro membership with unlimited pulls.
$150 value
FREE Career Path Access
$23,000 value
Land Academy No more separate charges - Land Academy is included with LA Pro Membership. This includes all education, tools, support, and future releases.
$300 value
Subtotal: $12,050 value
Mail Value: $22,500 value
Total Value: $57,550
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Disclaimer: *We have a monthly “use it or lose it” policy with mail and data – Land Academy PRO is designed to keep you on-track and consistent.

To cancel, all packages require a 30 day notice to move you back down to regular Land Academy membership.

Office Hours Schedule

Scheduling a Career Path interview call is currently on hold and will resume closer to Fall 2024 as we approach Career Path 10.

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