When is it Time to Seek Professional Help (LA 1633)
When is it Time to Seek Professional Help (LA 1633)
Transcript:
Steven Butala:
Steve and Jill here.
Jill DeWit:
Hi.
Steven Butala:
Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I’m Steven Jack Butala.
Jill DeWit:
And I’m Jill DeWit, broadcasting from the Valley of the Sun.
Steven Butala:
Today, Jill and I talk about when is it time to seek professional help?
Jill DeWit:
No, we don’t mean marriage counseling, or whatever issues that you’re having.
Steven Butala:
Are you sure? I disagree. There’s no way we can do this episode without addressing this stuff.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, okay. Got it. That’s not where I was going, though.
Steven Butala:
Every week Jill and I sit down, usually pretty briefly and say, “All right. Let’s come up with five topics,” and so first thing I do is I go into Discord and see what’s on everybody’s mind and try to make this some semblance of intelligent. That’s not what Jill does. She goes off and she’s like, “This is what people need. We need to-”
Jill DeWit:
And this is my topic. You can [crosstalk 00:00:53].
Steven Butala:
I know. This is Jill’s topic. That’s my point.
Jill DeWit:
It’s clearly mine.
Steven Butala:
It started out, what she really meant was this.
Jill DeWit:
We’ll get to it.
Steven Butala:
Okay.
Jill DeWit:
Okay. It’s-
Steven Butala:
I can-
Jill DeWit:
We’ll get to you in a minute.
Steven Butala:
Before we get into it, maybe we need help. Let’s take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community. It’s free. Don’t forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows you like.
Jill DeWit:
James wrote, “Kevin, I appreciate you simplifying problems such as pricing and picking the county and help me get past analysis paralysis. I’m finally closing on three deals and will continue to seek your safe consult to get me past stock points.”
Jill DeWit:
Kevin wrote, “I’ve been watching your discussions here and you are looking good. Keep up the good work.” I like this little blip, because it does tie into today and what I’m talking about. Pro help means someone beyond you.
Steven Butala:
Kevin Farrell is one of our moderators. He is the Discord moderator. He’s presented at our live events. He’s truly doing this to give back and help everybody and do deals with everybody. He’s coming at this from his heart.
Jill DeWit:
Yeah.
Steven Butala:
He’s just a great guy. I can’t say enough good stuff, and his advice is correct.
Jill DeWit:
Right.
Steven Butala:
Today’s topic?
Jill DeWit:
I’m waiting for the topic [crosstalk 00:02:17]
Steven Butala:
When is it time to seek professional help? This is the meat of the show.
Jill DeWit:
Okay. So here’s what I’m talking about. And it’s not necessarily someone that’s beyond you, so that’s not really correct. Maybe it’s someone who’s doing something totally different that you want to learn from.
Steven Butala:
Maybe it’s Kevin.
Jill DeWit:
I happened to, just the other day, I jumped on somebody else’s Clubhouse chat. It was the funniest thing. Halfway into this guy’s chat, it was on mobile homes and mobile home parks. So I’m like, “Okay, I want to hear what this guy’s saying,” so I jumped in the room and there was nobody else on stage. It was just kind of him talking. I think he answered some questions early on in the call. But at that point it was just him. He said something to me that, of course, struck a chord, so I raised my hand.
Jill DeWit:
If you’re in Clubhouse, you know what I mean. You raise your hand and you get invited on stage. So for the second half hour, it was just this guy and I talking, and everybody else is listening.
Steven Butala:
Darn, Jill.
Jill DeWit:
It was so funny because we had a great conversation. I think what it was, I [inaudible 00:03:16].
Steven Butala:
You co-hosted his show. There’s a little bit of cheating going on here.
Jill DeWit:
I kind of did, and he really thanked me. It was so funny. He’s like, “I wonder how many followers you just got? I’m like, “Yeah, I can see him popping in. So you know what struck chord was, he’s like, “You know, one of the things I want to think about is getting into the vacant land space,” and that’s when I raised my hand. I’m like, “This is awesome because I happen to know a thing about that, and you know more about parks. You’ve been doing that way longer than I have. Hey, let’s talk.”
Jill DeWit:
I bet I can help you buy anything property wise, cheaper, and then you can help me in these areas. I don’t know how this stuff works. And what’s funny is his… this is the whole… I know I’m on a tangent here, but his whole thing is the hardest, I think. He likes finding parks, mobile home parks, helping them with occupancy and vacancy. And I’m like-
Steven Butala:
Oh, my gosh.
Jill DeWit:
Right?
Steven Butala:
We should partnership with him.
Jill DeWit:
That’s what I told him. I said, “You’re doing the hardest thing you could possibly do on the planet. I don’t even touch that.” I said, “I like mobile homes and I like them on their own piece of property.” He’s like, “Well, that’s great because this is where I deal with these people. Once they’re in a mobile home park and they’ve got that handle, their dream is to own their own piece of land and move their mobile home over there.”
Steven Butala:
And not pay rent. Jill, did you get along with him?
Jill DeWit:
Oh my God, we had a great time. I was like 30 minutes on stage with this guy. It was the funniest thing. Everybody was just glued. I can tell. And it’s funny. When you go on stage in Clubhouse and if people follow you, then they get alerted if you’re on the stage. I saw a few Land Academy people popping up in there because they’re like, “What’s Jill talking about?” so they popped in. It was really kind of fun. So I helped his numbers, too.
Steven Butala:
I honestly want to go back and find that and listen to it.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, it’s good. Actually, it was yesterday and it was why I was late to one of our meetings yesterday. I said, I’m on a call. I need five minutes.
Steven Butala:
Oh, that’s what was going on.
Jill DeWit:
Yeah. I was on this guy thing and I’m like, “This is so valuable. I’ve got to finish this.” Aaron jumped in with me and was listening. She’s like, “This is awesome.” Okay. So my point is here, when is the time to seek help? Well, there’s an example. I could use help from this guy. I don’t know mobiles nearly like he does or mobile home parks. And so it was very interesting to me, his spin on things and how he was doing things. And then, in return, even though he’s really good at what he does, he’s not outsourcing what he could outsource. He’s not using Vas like he could, and I’m like, “Oh, I can help with a lot of that.” We got that down. He’s like, “This is great not to mention the land part.”
Jill DeWit:
There’s different kinds of professional help, okay? One is just flat out consulting. Right? Two is just getting an education. I look at that as kind of outside help. If you want to learn something, there’s nothing wrong with picking up somebody else’s book or taking somebody else’s program because you will always get some nugget out of that.
Steven Butala:
I guess.
Jill DeWit:
And then, also too, is a different kind of help. Like for motivation. That’s not nuts, too. Not just education, but also motivation. So those are what I’m referring to today. This is clearly my show. I’m running with this.
Steven Butala:
I think it’s great. I mean, I actually have a few questions when you’re ready.
Jill DeWit:
Okay. I broke it into three groups. All right? We’ve got newbies. You might be brand new to that niche or you’re new to all of it. We’ve got the part-timers/almost full-timers. They’ve got this figured out and they’re growing and they’re doing well and they’re on a good path. And then we have the pros, like we’ve been doing this for 5, 10, we’ll just say 10, years or so, or dollar amount or number of deals. They’ve got it really figured out. That’s how I classify people.
Jill DeWit:
Okay. When is to seek professional help? I think I kind of answered it. There’s a level for all of us, even me at my level and our level and what we know and what we do and how well we do it. I don’t know everything. I don’t know every single area or I don’t know every county like the back of my hand. Nobody does. If someone says they do, I wouldn’t trust that person.
Steven Butala:
Yeah. Me too. If somebody says, “Oh, I’ve got this. I’ll figured out on any topic, I would run away.
Jill DeWit:
You hear us. If you’re on our Thursday calls with us, our member calls, and if you want to be on our remember calls, I’ll tell you how just a minute. But if you’re on our Thursday calls with us, you hear us going, “I haven’t had this one before, but here’s how I would handle it,” or “Here’s where I would call, and here are the questions I would ask,” because nobody’s got everything perfectly licked, but people do have niches. So whatever you identify as a pain point or a problem, maybe you don’t even identify it. Maybe someone else and more than one person has said, “By the way, you suck at this,”
Steven Butala:
Which is good, actually.
Jill DeWit:
Yep. They’re nice enough to tell you.
Steven Butala:
Right.
Jill DeWit:
Exactly. Then you should consider, if you want to get better anyway, seeking out someone who really knows that niche.
Steven Butala:
So travel with me through this thought. When we’re children, we have, theoretically, professional help from our parents. We have help, so we’re used to seeking help. We’re used to having one or many people. You know, it takes a village kind of thing to veer children until they become legal adults.
Jill DeWit:
Teachers.
Steven Butala:
Let’s just say 18ish or it’s that age when, if they go on to college, they have teachers and they have counselors. They only use or utilize that help as much as they, as much as they self-deem appropriate. There’s always somebody and another student, because it’s not me, who befriends a teacher. That person always gets an A and they have a happy life.
Jill DeWit:
That used to be me.
Steven Butala:
And same thing with counselors. It’s like, all right, I’m getting ready to-
Jill DeWit:
Number three does that, too.
Steven Butala:
I’m a junior in college. I need to start doing internships, and they have a much happier life than, let’s say, people like me. So professional help, then you get out of school and you go to work and you’ve got, theoretically, bosses and all that. And if they have rational personality types, they’re going to help you through it. So we’re all used to getting help. How we utilize it is the variable. And I don’t think, when you start to have a profession like buying and selling land or anything, you’d be crazy not to seek professional help or get in a group of peers.
Steven Butala:
I’m not selling Land Academy here, but there’s a ton of information I learn in Discord every day about real estate deals and then about just personality types and how to deal with stuff.
Jill DeWit:
Right.
Steven Butala:
So it’s all around us. Professional help is all around us. It’s just checking your pride at the door and using it.
Jill DeWit:
Are you able to raise your hand and say, “Can we talk about this? Can I hire you? What can we do here? What can I give you to help you to pay you back for this?” which is a nice way to do it.
Steven Butala:
I’ve been threatening to finish this book that I’ve started a long time ago called Stuff your Father Never Told You, which is professional help for young boys. I don’t think that there’s enough men in young boys or young men’s lives to say, “Look, man, if you continue down this path, here’s what you can expect to happen.” They just need… I mean, girls need it too, but I’m less aware of it than, let’s say, Jill is.
Jill DeWit:
As you should be. That’d be hilarious. We should do that. We wait, wait, this would be funny. We should even just do this as an exercise. I’ll write 10 chapters of what I think your book should be. Right? The stuff, the crap, your dad never told you, and I’ll do the crap your mom never told you. You write 10 chapters you think I should cover. This would be hilarious.
Steven Butala:
I think it would be funny to read both side by side.
Jill DeWit:
Wait. Let’s each think of one chapter right now. What would I put in your book that I wish all men knew?
Steven Butala:
The order of things.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, you think for women? No, no, no, no, no. You do one. Write a chapter for me and I’m going to write a chapter for you. Let me go first.
Steven Butala:
Oh, you go first.
Jill DeWit:
Okay. Here’s my chapter that I would like covered in the man book. When did you shut up and let a woman talk?
Steven Butala:
Always. End of chapter. Always. That’s the chapter.
Jill DeWit:
And why it’s not beneficial to stop her.
Steven Butala:
Hold on. You’re writing the chapter. I don’t even get to write it.
Jill DeWit:
And all the things she’s doing wrong.
Steven Butala:
I don’t even get to write the chapter at all. Jill’s writing it. I already ended the chapter. Always. But it doesn’t stop there, does it?
Jill DeWit:
Nope. See? You already missed it. You missed the point. All right. So, now, give me a chapter that you would like in a woman’s book that you wish all women would do for men.
Steven Butala:
How to understand a man’s plan, and actually help, not stop and throw a wrench into the gears.
Jill DeWit:
Like get pregnant.
Steven Butala:
It could be way worse than that. There are way, way, worse things than pregnancy.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, my gosh. Okay. I think we covered it. Good.
Steven Butala:
I’d read that book, actually. I bet a lot of people would.
Jill DeWit:
That would be really funny. We’re going to call it here. Hope you could join us today. Five days a week, you could find us on some semblance of the Land Academy Show.
Steven Butala:
Tomorrow, the episode on the Land Academy Show is called Introducing Land Academy Garage Sale. You are not alone in your real estate ambition.
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