Jack Thursday – Negative Attention (LA 1791)

Jack Thursday – Negative Attention (LA 1791)

Transcript:

Steven Jack Butala:
Steve and Jill here.

Jill K DeWit:
Hi.

Steven Jack Butala:
Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I’m Steven Jack Butala.

Jill K DeWit:
And I’m Jill DeWit, broadcasting from the valley of the sun.

Steven Jack Butala:
Today’s Jack Thursday, and I’m going to talk about negative attention.

Jill K DeWit:
She won’t be-

Steven Jack Butala:
Just, right before the show, she’s like, “What is this?”

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah. I’m like, “Are you going to call somebody out?” And he’s, “Kind of.” I’m like, “Well, hold on a moment.” He’s, “No, I won’t make it too obvious.”

Steven Jack Butala:
I’ll disguise it.

Jill K DeWit:
And I said, like yeah, what did I say? “Disguise it in the form of an insult.”

Steven Jack Butala:
That’s no disguise at all though.

Jill K DeWit:
Nope.

Steven Jack Butala:
Before we get into it, let’s take a question posted by one of our members on the Land Academy.com online community. It’s free. And please don’t forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel. Comment on the shows you like.

Jill K DeWit:
Aaron wrote, “What does surveyed with boundary and building envelope mean?”.

Steven Jack Butala:
This is an excellent, excellent question. This is what I would call a master’s degree, maybe even a PhD level question, and I think it’s great. When you get a survey for a property or regular survey without the boundary or the envelope, what they’re doing, what the surveyor is doing, is looking at the bond, the perimeter of the property. And so, we’ve all driven by people with survey equipment and there’s, and then they put stakes in…

Jill K DeWit:
The tripod.

Steven Jack Butala:
Yeah, exactly. There’s usually two people involved. One person’s finding for it, and finding for it. And so, there’s, and there’s a lot of education, formal education that goes involved. The surveys have to go through formal education.

Jill K DeWit:
The school, right? Yeah. They have to…

Steven Jack Butala:
And a whole apprenticeship, and the whole thing.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah. That’s cool.

Steven Jack Butala:
And so, vast majority of surveys are just boundary surveys, are perimeter surveys, where here’s the corner, here’s the corner, here’s the corner, here’s the corner.

Jill K DeWit:
This is you.

Steven Jack Butala:
And your neighbors.

Jill K DeWit:
In here.

Steven Jack Butala:
And a lot. We all talk about lot lines, because we all have neighbors, and it’s like ‘that guy’s on my lot.’ So a perimeter survey, our regular boundary survey, will tell, will show that’s either the case or not the case. We’ve just been through several surveys because we do minor splits.
This is a special kind of awesome survey, and if you Google it, I would encourage you to Google it. What you’ll see is that regular perimeter boundary survey, and then inside of it, you’ll see another shape with boundaries in it. And that is because the survey went and did the research at the county to find out what setbacks are, and what the, where you can put a structure. And it’s very, very, very helpful. It’s way beyond just the perimeter, because then it shows you, ‘yeah, I can put a house or a building in this area’, and this is, then the wheels start to turn about use and everything else, so. It doesn’t cost that much more, and I would usually, if you’re going to have to do surveys, or you’re in the habit of doing surveys, I would ask for this in the future.

Jill K DeWit:
Hope you’re not in the habit of doing surveys.

Steven Jack Butala:
Jill doesn’t like surveys.

Jill K DeWit:
Hate them. Only if I have to.

Steven Jack Butala:
They’re time-consuming and costly.

Jill K DeWit:
Cost.

Steven Jack Butala:
But.

Jill K DeWit:
And usually not necessary.

Steven Jack Butala:
When you minor split property, it’s a, it’s essential.

Jill K DeWit:
I understand. That makes sense.

Steven Jack Butala:
This isn’t, we recently came across somebody who said, oh, I get a survey on every property I buy.

Jill K DeWit:
Stop.

Steven Jack Butala:
That’s a gross overkill.

Jill K DeWit:
Yep.

Steven Jack Butala:
But it’s really cool to get a survey back and say that’s where the structure goes right there.

Jill K DeWit:
Thank you.

Steven Jack Butala:
Great question. Today’s Jack Thursday. I’m going to talk about negative attention. This is why you’re listening.

Jill K DeWit:
Is this like when the kids were little?

Steven Jack Butala:
Yes.

Jill K DeWit:
Ah. Okay.

Steven Jack Butala:
That’s exactly what it is.

Jill K DeWit:
Got it. And you, we have you think we have some kids in our group?

Steven Jack Butala:
I think that we have people.

Jill K DeWit:
Okay.

Steven Jack Butala:
That are may or may not be in our group, or may or may not be listening to the show that, have for whatever reason not gotten the attention that they want to get from let’s say a group like Land Academy. Or maybe they feel like they should have the microphone in the camera, not us. Not Jill and I. And they’re not, they don’t have a, I’ve been born with a dynamic personality like Joe does.

Jill K DeWit:
They’re not fulfilled.

Steven Jack Butala:
I don’t know. You can try to make light of this if you want, but it’s Jack Thursday.

Jill K DeWit:
Sorry. I’ll save it for tomorrow.

Steven Jack Butala:
A couple years back, I did a show on personality disorders because there are people in back in the group. It seemed to work actually. People in our group that had certifiable personality disorders, specifically narcissists. And…

Jill K DeWit:
So.

Steven Jack Butala:
We don’t seem to have any more narcissists in our group.

Jill K DeWit:
Well not I.

Steven Jack Butala:
Most narcissists know that they are a narcissist by the way.

Jill K DeWit:
Okay. So please tell me where you have a point to make and how involved or not involved should I be here?

Steven Jack Butala:
Completely involved.

Jill K DeWit:
Okay. Got it.

Steven Jack Butala:
Bad humor.

Jill K DeWit:
Do I need to…

Steven Jack Butala:
Cut me off? Be a totally involved.

Jill K DeWit:
Shoot. I don’t want to get, I don’t want to get in trouble because I’m not seeking negative attention.

Steven Jack Butala:
Here’s an example of somebody who doesn’t need negative attention. Jim Carey, whatever he does it’s funny.

Jill K DeWit:
Oh yeah.

Steven Jack Butala:
In an interview, he doesn’t have to resort to saying negative things and be having this ER personality and being real loud about it. Because that person might not be getting positive attention.

Jill K DeWit:
I got a negative attention. Johnny Depp.

Steven Jack Butala:
That’s perfect. We have to stay in the news.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.

Steven Jack Butala:
Johnny Depp.

Jill K DeWit:
Amber who? It don’t know who started it, but yeah, there you go. There’s negative tension. And we’re done, just kidding.

Steven Jack Butala:
In every group where like, let’s say career path is a good example. Some people have to, there’s just people that say we have, there’s a person in our group that is incredibly successful. He’s crazy is successful, upper echelon of success, multiple deals. Sends out tens of thousands of letters and does a ton of deals. And he’s always complaining.

Jill K DeWit:
I know.

Steven Jack Butala:
It just, this doesn’t work right. I’m not satisfied with the 42 deals I did last month. I did 58 deals a month before. What’s wrong with you? What’s wrong with you guys.

Jill K DeWit:
That’s funny.

Steven Jack Butala:
That’s negative attention.

Jill K DeWit:
I understand.

Steven Jack Butala:
And the vast majority of everybody here is like, wow, this is the greatest thing ever. Joe and I get.

Jill K DeWit:
I know.

Steven Jack Butala:
We get gifts. People send us stuff in the mail.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.

Steven Jack Butala:
We get, I get multiple emails, personal emails that say you changed my life. My wife just quit her job. We can stay at home with kids now.

Jill K DeWit:
I love that. That’s why we’re here.

Steven Jack Butala:
I was in tears last week because I bought a new truck and picked up my kids from school in it. You know.

Jill K DeWit:
I can’t believe you do this.

Steven Jack Butala:
That’s what Land Academy is. So.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.

Steven Jack Butala:
But for some people, they just need to be real and negative because I think over the years they’ve gotten used to not getting the attention that they think they deserve. So they’re resorting to saying and doing terrible stuff. E or type stuff.

Jill K DeWit:
You know, I think it is, when I experience it, the ones I’ve dealt with, I feel like it’s, they’re not taking ownership of it. It’s like they’re complaining because it’s like, it has to be you, it can’t be me. Maybe it is you. Maybe it’s you. The reason why you didn’t get this done, don’t complain and say it’s the system’s broke kind of thing. How about answer the phone and then they’re going to say, well my phone broke. Okay, fine. Now it’s Sprint’s fault. Okay, great. How far do we want to go with this?

Steven Jack Butala:
Jill and I, we having a conversation a couple weeks ago. I don’t know why we were both in the car together, going somewhere. And I said, if I get in a car accident, the first thing I person I’m going to blame is myself. Even if it’s like, even if I get rear-ended like what could have I have done?

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah, to not be here.

Steven Jack Butala:
To not you rear-ended or be in the wrong place, wrong time kind of thing. And she said, yeah, same thing with me.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.

Steven Jack Butala:
So that’s actually taken ownership and responsibility, maybe to an unhealthy level. I don’t know, where you own everything and that’s how want people get stuff done. Instead of saying, I sent out 15,000 mailers and this doesn’t work.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah. You need to sit back.

Steven Jack Butala:
I didn’t call anybody back. I didn’t, I didn’t do anything. This is this not, it’s not me.

Jill K DeWit:
No.

Steven Jack Butala:
It’s something else or someone else.

Jill K DeWit:
Exactly.

Steven Jack Butala:
So those are the types of people that resort to the negative attention.

Jill K DeWit:
I understand. Thank you. And happy you could join us today. Five days weekly, you can find us here on the Land Academy show.

Steven Jack Butala:
Jill’s going to save this all because tomorrow is Jill Friday and she’s going to talk about eight hours a day on the phone. You are not alone in your real estate ambition. Have you noticed that there’s a trend this week? I have.

Jill K DeWit:
Wait, wait, wait. Is it the trend this week is stop whining?

Steven Jack Butala:
Stop whining.

Jill K DeWit:
Oh, here we go.

Steven Jack Butala:
Get on the phone.

Jill K DeWit:
Get it done.

Steven Jack Butala:
Get on the phone and make some deals out of all the people that call you back, regardless of how angry they are. You sent the mail out. We all know that works. That’s been proven over and over and over again. You maybe you priced it perfectly. Maybe you didn’t.

Jill K DeWit:
Who cares? Fix it.

Steven Jack Butala:
There’s a ton of deals. If 80 people call you back on a mailer, there’s tons and tons of deals.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.

Steven Jack Butala:
That’s a good number.

Jill K DeWit:
It’s not a flop.

Steven Jack Butala:
There might be 40 to 80 people that call you back. They might be mad. They might be happy. They might have signed it.

Jill K DeWit:
Yeah.

Steven Jack Butala:
There’s deals in there.

Jill K DeWit:
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