Couples Therapy Here We Come (CFFL 0070)

Couples Therapy Here We Come (CFFL 0070)

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Steve:                   Hey, Jack Butala here for Land Academy. Welcome to our cash flow from land show. In this episode, Jill and I talk about our relationship, not because I want to at all, but people keep asking us about it, so I am going to use the show to answer some questions in the hopes that they discontinue.

Jill:                          I would like to know, first of all, this title cracks me up. Couples therapy, here we come. That was great. Who’s asking? I don’t get those questions.

Steve:                   Really?

Jill:                          Well, I shouldn’t say that. I do get some, but no one asks me out right, they kind of dance around it and then I don’t acknowledge it.

Steve:                   That’s what I’m talking about. You’ve probably had a lot of practice at that by now.

Jill:                          I am very good at that.

Steve:                   No, I write these titles and if you’ve ever listened to this show, I write the titles and they have nothing to do with the show at all. The title is just designed to get the to click the play button or listen button.

Jill:                          I really don’t want to have to get into all this.

Steve:                   I’m just joking.

Jill:                          Oh my gosh. You are the best person I have ever worked with ever.

Steve:                   What?

Jill:                          No, I mean that.

Steve:                   You’re trying to get out of going to therapy by being nice.

Jill:                          Totally, just kidding. There’s no therapy in our future.

Steve:                   I know, there’s no therapy. This show was actually … Well, go ahead and keep complimenting me.

Jill:                          Here’s how I take this show, I take this show as just funny play on words/talking about working with a partner, a business partner, and not the pros and cons, but the ups and downs and why a business partner keeps you in line sometimes, well at least for me, and reminds me the things that I’m good at, the things that I’m not good at, what to focus on sometimes, what to outsource, let it go, and so I look at it about things like that.

Steve:                   I think there’s been a lot of points along the way, we kind of hit on this last week, it stuck with me for some reason, I don’t even think you remember saying it, but when there are rough times, we’ve been so lucky, there’s been so few. When there’s rough times, you just have to kind of sit there and say “This is just a little thing.” We’re all going in the same direction and we’ll work it out. That’s always the case. I think there’s few systematic things that we’ve put in place in the last few months that really, really make this really click and work. Having separate offices works for me, taking separate cars to work to our office, a lot of things like that just keep us a little more separate and professional when we’re here than in the social part of our life.

Jill:                          Exactly.

Steve:                   Sometimes Jill falls asleep during a podcast.

Jill:                          Oh, that happens.

Steve:                   She is right now.

Jill:                          Jill loses interest very quickly. That’s a whole other one, that’s a funny topic about-

Steve:                   I can tell when you’re bored with something right away, I mean immediately.

Jill:                          You can see my eyes gloss over?

Steve:                   Just yeah, you’re thinking about something else, that actually just happened.

Jill:                          That’s true.

Steve:                   What were you thinking about?

Jill:                          You used to say that, I haven’t heard you say it in a long time, but you used to come and say “I’m going to try to do my best to do this in soundbites and keep your interest.” It would be we’re in a board room having a meeting kind of thing because we have a conference room and we’re in there and you would say that.

Steve:                   I know.

Jill:                          I think we’ve come a long way. I know we’ve come a long way.

Steve:                   Oh my gosh.

Jill:                          In how we communicate and-

Steve:                   I was just talking about Land Academy, not Land Stay. Land Stay has always been … The way that it used to be, it’s a little different now because we’re all constantly working harder than we used to. I reel the property in, you close it, get it all prepped up, and you close it and it was very separate. That’s the point, that’s the point I’m trying to make. There’s a bunch of stuff that you do over there for Land Academy and Land Stay and I don’t even know about it and it just works and I have blind trust in this very infrequent event where some stuff goes sideways, the whole thought process that I have in three seconds is “You win some, you lose some and she’s killing it over there” in general. I hope that’s the case over here.

Jill:                          Oh, absolutely. I hope you know that, I’m sure you know that. I have blind faith in you, I know what you’re good at, and I know the things to leave you alone, I know that any future business venture that you consider that you’re going to do eighteen to twenty hours, may more, of research on it.

Steve:                   Yeah, by the time it gets to you.

Jill:                          I know that, I love that.

Steve:                   If and when it gets to you which is very infrequent, it’s that set.

Jill:                          Yeah, you’re about to pull the trigger. You want to A. Let me know “Hey, heads up, here’s what’s coming.” Or B. “Hey, do you see anything I missed? Which is great, you’re good about asking me “Last things, here’s where I’m at, can you add to it?”

Steve:                   You know what a lot of guys my age see? I don’t know if it’s ever going to make the air-

Jill:                          I’m really worried right now.

Steve:                   They see their women or other women and just treating them with indigence, like “Oh, you could never do that. You can never start a land business, just stop thing about that, forget it.” The root of it’s just like they don’t believe in them or there’s no trust, I totally believe in you and I completely trust you.

Jill:                          Same here. Talk about deflating.

Steve:                   This is couples therapy, this is it.

Jill:                          I guess we are having couples therapy for other couples.

Steve:                   That’s a good show idea. You don’t have to go to therapy, you can just listen to us do it for you.

Jill:                          On the brink of divorce? We have a show for that. Here’s what we’ve seen.

Steve:                   Our whole point to this new show is to have you say this to yourself “Yeah, that’s what I thought.”

Jill:                          Or “Maybe it’s not that bad.”

Steve:                   “Why can’t you be like Jill, honey?”

Jill:                          Don’t do that.

Steve:                   You know when you’re a kind and your mom would say that “Why can’t be you be like John and get good grades?”

Jill:                          Right.

Steve:                   That actually happened to me.

Jill:                          Aw.

Steve:                   No, I’m just joking.

Jill:                          I’m sorry, I never had that.

Steve:                   I know because Disney Land.

Jill:                          Thank you. I was always … You know what was funny growing up? I was always off doing my own thing. I think I was kind of an entrepreneur doing my own thing for along time and no one ever realized what I was doing. I’m off creating my own little thing, my family didn’t really pay much attention, I’m not sure they do right now.

Steve:                   No, they don’t.

Jill:                          They don’t.

Steve:                   Do they know where you live?

Jill:                          Yes. My family is pretty wrapped up in their own things. “Jill’s just off doing something over here, we’re not quite sure, some land thing, I don’t know.”

Steve:                   There’s a lot of people listening to this right now and they’re asking themselves “What the hell does this have to do with real estate?”

Jill:                          I’ll tell you what I has to do with real estate, get your … Here’s what I think it has to do with real estate, get everyone in your life, as well as you can, on board and on the same page because it is that important.

Steve:                   That is a chick point of view totally.

Jill:                          No, well-

Steve:                   No, I think it’s good.

Jill:                          It’s important.

Steve:                   If your wife’s not on board, we did a show called “How to convince your wife that this is something you want to do.”

Jill:                          We talked about one of our members who had to do a quick deal just to show his wife “Look, I can make money doing this.” And she said “Okay.” She really made his do one just to prove the system to her and she said “Okay, now I’m in.” Now she is really happy.

Steve:                   That was a long time ago and we have notice, I’m sure you have too, that is happening less and less and less. What ended up happening is that … I like to think we kind of exposed this little niche thing to a lot of people that … I think a lot of people brushed it off and said a couple things like this “Who the hell would live out there in the middle of nowhere?”

Jill:                          Right.

Steve:                   “Why is it so cheap? There must be something wrong with it.” I hope that we’re dispelling that by now, this is a hundred and five shows by now and I don’t know many members and sixteen thousand transactions that we’ve done aren’t flukes.

Jill:                          If we had sixteen thousand one offs.

Steve:                   People do want to live-

Jill:                          It’ll never happen again, we’ll won’t get sixteen thousand and one, I’m not sure.

Steve:                   I, personally, am not one of those people who wants to live out in the middle of nowhere, but there are tons of people and more and more are finding us and buying these properties as fast as we can buy it from us. There’s nothing wrong with it. There’s nothing wrong with this property, the people who own it just don’t want it anymore.

Jill:                          I have something to say, there’s a home show coming to town in the next couple of weeks and the home show advertising has a whole new twist, it’s not about putting a pool in your backyard and redoing your lawn and an awning or whatever, it’s all about tiny houses.

Steve:                   No way.

Jill:                          I am not kidding.

Steve:                   Jill, we should be …

Jill:                          I know that, we are going to talk about that.

Steve:                   Is it too late?

Jill:                          No, it’s not too late. All right, I’m going to get us into that show.

Steve:                   We should be a presenter, we should bring the mics and do shows and stuff.

Jill:                          Oh, we could. What I was going to do is talk to the tiny house people, I thought we could just even go and talk to some of them, but thank you. It’s coming up in the next two weeks I want to say.

Steve:                   You need the land to put the tiny houses on.

Jill:                          I’ll have to figure that out. I just heard it last weekend, but the whole marketing campaign was tiny houses.

Steve:                   This is what I’m talking about, I would have seen a commercial like that and I would have brushed over it and said “I hope Jill doesn’t make me go to that.” That would have been the fist like … I don’t want to go that. In fact, I’m just going to put a baseball hat on Saturday and do nothing.

Jill:                          There you go. No, it’s a good business venture.

Steve:                   That’s a great idea.

Jill:                          What I was saying about who wants this land, get over it everybody-

Steve:                   Everybody wants it.

Jill:                          It’s true.

Steve:                   I think a lot of it has to do with the internet. There are a lot of people who have jobs just on the internet, it’s a work from home situation and if your home’s in the middle of nowhere with a satellite, not the middle of nowhere, in a beautiful setting in Northern Arizona or anywhere you can dream of, Michigan or anywhere, and a piece of property you’re living on that you pad two thousand dollars cash for, your satellite up link to the internet is just as good as the one in Manhattan, so we are seeing tons and tons of end user buyers that are looking for this property. They’re all at that show, that’s a great idea. Is it too late for us to get in, can you look into it?

Jill:                          I will in a little bit. I just wrote that down.

Steve:                   That’s a great idea.

Jill:                          I really think it’s coming up this weekend, so I’ll figure that out.

Steve:                   All right, so at the very least we’ll just go to it.

Jill:                          Yeah, and do some recognizance.

Steve:                   Recognizance. Reconizence is recon, recognizence is-

Jill:                          I know.

Steve:                   Is rethinking something.

Jill:                          Well, I’m going to recog this.

Steve:                   Welcome to the little Disney Land world in my friend Jill’s head.

Jill:                          Oh, goodness. What have I gotten myself into?

Steve:                   You know how idiosyncratic stuff, but if you don’t know what idiosyncratic means, it’s like stupid little things that somebody in your life does that you want to kill them for, Jill doesn’t have any of those, she has like cute little things. Somebody told me that, since this is a stupid show about couples therapy or something, somebody told me that’s how you really care about somebody is when you like there stupid stuff.

Jill:                          There it goes, there went out G rating.

Steve:                   I’ll edit that out. I actually have a bleeper.

Jill:                          Oh, that’s good. Thank you. What else is good? When you say couples therapy, it’s important as business partners, I know we have some members that our doing it with brothers and doing it with wives and I’m sure they’re going to come across some of the same obstacles that we have when you’re that close and you know each other that well, it’s hard to sometime separate business from outside of business, let’s just say. You have to, you really have to.

Steve:                   That was my point in bringing up some of that stuff that we worked on earlier. It really helps me to work in a different office and working … For a long time we were in different buildings and that helped too.

Jill:                          That was nice. Now with our show and everything and our studio, we have to be … I don’t want to drive to it everyday.

Steve:                   Same building.

Jill:                          I’m not driving to the studio, but now we have to have it here.

Steve:                   [inaudible 00:13:45] because you love talking to people and you love the whole social customer service aspect of this. I thought you were joking about it in the beginning because I thought “Who the heck could ever want it like that?” You really do, I think you really truly do. I love the whole data, weird, geeky thing. It’s just we’re all going in the same direction for different reasons and that seemed to work out for some reason.

Jill:                          Are we … It’s hard to find this, I’ll agree, to find people that have, like you just said, complimenting talents and similar goals in business and in life is … I bet the odds are lower than winning the lottery right now.

Steve:                   What the heck? I doubt they’re lower than that.

Jill:                          Oh, okay.

Steve:                   I don’t think there’s any higher odds than winning the lottery.

Jill:                          Okay. It’s … But you can get there, how about that?

Steve:                   That’s what it is, I was going to say the same thing.

Jill:                          You can nurture it and get there.

Steve:                   Whatever it is you got to work it out.

Jill:                          Can’t kill each other. Can’t stop.

Steve:                   You just have to make a commitment and work it out, just like any business in anything.

Jill:                          I know that we have members that are couples. One I’m thinking in particular, they were very, very successful real estate couples.

Steve:                   I know who you’re talking about.

Jill:                          Yeah, and they decided-

Steve:                   They retired.

Jill:                          What was so great is they retired from their day to day real estate thing, it’s like we’re not showing houses, we’re showing properties anymore.

Steve:                   They had a ranch and they sold it and made a ton of money. Is that the same people you’re talking about?

Jill:                          Exactly and now they’re transitioning to this which is perfect because they love to travel and do their thing and they’re not done and they could do this. I’m sure they would weigh in that I bet it took a lot of work to get to the point where like we are, we’re a pretty smooth running operation.

Steve:                   The other thing, Jill, is you have your own companies, I have my own. We separate stuff a lot like that. I keep saying separate because men have a thing in general about just all one big ball of wax and it’s just easier for a lot of reasons if it’s that way, maybe mentally.

Jill:                          I like it too.

Steve:                   Oh, you do too?

Jill:                          Sure. I like having my own companies and my own side ventures and-

Steve:                   Your own employees and all that.

Jill:                          My own employees, my own LLC’s, all of that. There’s nothing wrong with that. I think it’s important to have your own identity and your own separate things.

Steve:                   Join us in another episode which I promise will be more meaningful than this one where Jill and I discuss your all important success in land investment and in life.

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