Top 5 Land Business Tools You Need & Should Avoid (LA 1304)
Top 5 Land Business Tools You Need & Should Avoid (LA 1304)
Transcript:
Jack Butala:
Steve and Jill here.
Jill DeWit:
Hello.
Jack Butala:
Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I’m Steven Jack Butala.
Jill DeWit:
And I’m Jill Dewitt, broadcasting from sunny southern California.
Jack Butala:
Today, Jill and I talk about the top five land business tools that you need and some that you’re don’t think you need, or probably should ever need.
Jill DeWit:
Like which ones are stupid?
Jack Butala:
Yeah. Which group do you think I want to talk about the most?
Jill DeWit:
The ones you don’t need. Is that it?
Jack Butala:
The ones that are stupid, yeah.
Jill DeWit:
Because they keep coming up now, I think.
Jack Butala:
But like every show, I have to restrain myself, control my language and try to deliver some entertaining real estate investment advice.
Jill DeWit:
It’s like going out to dinner with you.
Jack Butala:
Oh, really?
Jill DeWit:
Yes.
Jack Butala:
Let’s hear that. What’s that experience typically like?
Jill DeWit:
Oh, it’s interesting. It’s usually good. But now and then, I have to say, “Shh, there are people in this place. We have to tone it down. There are children over there.”
Jack Butala:
Here’s what I’ve gotten used to saying and doing, like, “Hey Jill, am I too much? Is this too much?”
Jill DeWit:
That’s so true.
Jack Butala:
And probably most of the time you say, “No, it’s fine.”
Jill DeWit:
Do you know why?
Jack Butala:
Let’s hear.
Jill DeWit:
Here’s my argument. And for everyone listening, this applies to you as well. I can say this now because you can’t get mad at me here because we’re on the show. So babe, if you have to ask, am I too much, that’s a pretty good indication you might be too.
Jack Butala:
Well, I’m sure that’s true. I was just going to say, you usually say, “No, no, it’s fine.” It’s an enthusiastic, “No, no, it’s fine.” I really want to hear-
Jill DeWit:
Because you say it out loud and people are looking at me. They want to know what the answer is.
Jack Butala:
Well, it’s like, “No, no, it’s fine. I want to hear the rest of what you’re going to say,” or it’s like, “No, it’s fine,” or it’s like, “Yeah, it’s too much.” I have three shots.
Jill DeWit:
I know. Well usually what happens is I’ll be very honest. I’m like, “No, it’s great.” And then later on a few minutes later, I’ll go quietly to you. I’ll say, “Can you just tone down X or Y? But, thank you.”
Jack Butala:
There’s a lot to be frustrated in this life right now. And I’m sure-
Jill DeWit:
I get it.
Jack Butala:
… if you listen to this show, you’re obviously pretty intelligent.
Jill DeWit:
I hope you are.
Jack Butala:
You’re frustrated too.
Jill DeWit:
Or bored.
Jack Butala:
I bet you, you’re frustrated like me. Before we get into it, let’s take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community. It’s free.
Jill DeWit:
Jackson wrote, “I sold a property three months ago I originally bought with title insurance, but the notary closed it on the sell end. During the title close, I had to have the legal description redone by the surveyor, which I paid for. Shortly before I sold it, I had the abutter reach out to me saying how she saw it was for sale and told me the boundaries are wrong.”
Jack Butala:
The abutter in this person’s … This person is calling an abutter the-
Jill DeWit:
I’m curious. I’m like, “Who is the abutter?”
Jack Butala:
The adjacent property owner.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, that’s what they’re saying. The person next door.
Jack Butala:
Yeah.
Jill DeWit:
The next door neighbor said, “Hey, your boundaries are wrong.” How did they find … How weird is that, that they would even find that? The percentage of that are so small, it’s not even funny.
Jack Butala:
Let’s read the rest of the story here.
Jill DeWit:
“I was just showing the GIS mapping and that she had all illegal access to the pond and the boat road that goes to the pond. I talked with the town about it and they assured me this wasn’t the case. So I brushed it off. So now the person I sold the property to has wrote me a letter saying how she’d like to pay me for a survey or buy the property back from her, but the neighbor’s preventing her from enjoying her land. The attached letter the neighbor wrote, and the neighbor’s claiming she’ll press charges for emotional distress and other things. I feel bad about all this. I feel like the neighbor issue is outside of something we can be responsible for. Any recommendations on how to handle this?”
Jack Butala:
Go first, Jill.
Jill DeWit:
So I’m actually still trying to figure out this. So I bought the land title insurance. I sold it with a notary close. In the process, the title insurance, it’s something uncovered. I need to have the boundaries clearly defined, which I did and paid for. We think we’re done. I sell it to this very sweet lady. I think we’re good. The lady next door says, “I saw this for sale. You’re wrong. By the way, you think you sold her a third of the pond. You sold her none of the pond. It’s mine.” Whatever it is. So now I’m confused about who wrote the letter, the person who bought the property or the next door neighbor. What do you think it is?
Jack Butala:
This is the beginning … Here’s what I think. This is the beginning of the Hatfields and McCoys.
Jill DeWit:
Yes. She didn’t want to sell on it. She doesn’t want anybody living there, I’m sure.
Jack Butala:
So why are we talking to the neighbor?
Jill DeWit:
Because she reached out and he answered the phone. And how would you not know? So I would answer the phone too. I’m going to say, this is Jackson. I’m with you, Jackson, because the neighbor calls, you answer the phone, you’re trying to do the right thing, saying, “Hey, I went through the county. I hired a professional. Maybe you need to check your map a little bit, check your stuff, and I’ll share with you all the information that I have. Have a nice day.”
Jack Butala:
By the way, if you’re not listening to this show for entertainment purposes, you’re actually listening to get some real land advice and value.
Jill DeWit:
Is that a dig at me? Is that a poke at me?
Jack Butala:
It’s not a poke at you.
Jill DeWit:
All right.
Jack Butala:
This never happens. All right. On the 16,000 deals that we’ve done, I don’t ever-
Jill DeWit:
I’ve never dealt with this.
Jack Butala:
… recall a neighbor dispute or a situation like this. I don’t know why there was a survey done. I guess a notary …
Jill DeWit:
The notary wouldn’t know.
Jack Butala:
Here my point in picking this. You don’t what, I do not have any recommendations for you, Jackson.
Jill DeWit:
We’re lost on how you’ve gotten this pickle anyway.
Jack Butala:
Yes, yes. Yeah. So I have to say, real estate deal, there’s always some weird stuff that goes on in real estate deals. It’s usually almost never this weird and it almost always comes out to your financial benefit the way we do it and the way our members do it. But I will say, being a busy body in your own real estate deal is going to end up poorly for you.
Jill DeWit:
Right. I was going to say that. What you should do at this point is let them work it out. Like say, “Hey lady, I’m out of it. I hired a professional. If you don’t like it, you can call the county.”
Jack Butala:
Call the surveyor.
Jill DeWit:
Yeah. And then the person who bought the property, you just put it really nicely, say, “Hey, we all did everything right. Sorry she’s weird. I’m sure you guys will work it out. You know what you own, and here’s your survey and here’s all the information proving it. So, you go enjoy it and love it and have a nice day. And then if you want to put in a 10 foot wall, I don’t think you’re nuts.”
Jack Butala:
That’s the social answer, and she’s absolutely correct. Here’s here’s what a lawyer is going to say to Jackson, the seller. Did you disclose everything that you knew about the property? Yes or no?
Jill DeWit:
Yes.
Jack Butala:
Yes, I got a survey. Somebody told him at some point to get a survey in this process, probably the title agent. We’d just end up doing … Maybe there’s a lender at fault. We don’t know.
Jill DeWit:
That could be.
Jack Butala:
But they asked me to do this, I did it. They asked me to do this, I did it. I posted it on the internet. Here’s the results of the thing. I showed to everybody what the survey said, the boundaries. I don’t know. Hopefully he’s never been there. So yeah, I disclosed everything I knew about this property and I owned it for about a month. And the lawyer is going to say, “Thank you. Awesome. I’m going to take your case.”
Jill DeWit:
Yeah. Well the only thing is you’re not trying to pull a fast one here. You’re not doing anything wrong.
Jack Butala:
That’s my point. Jill, that’s my point.
Jill DeWit:
If you’re trying to do something wrong, then yeah, nobody should talk about this, but you’re not trying to do anything wrong. And like Steven just said, you did everything that was asked of you. I would again, let them figure it out.
Jack Butala:
Yeah. Don’t let this stuff deter you from getting in this business. It’s so far and few between. And by the way, this person is using the Land Investor’s forum correctly.
Jill DeWit:
Right. I would say also big flipping deal that she’s threatening to get a lawyer.
Jack Butala:
That’s what I think.
Jill DeWit:
Last time I checked, and I know we have a show coming up this week about how hard it is to get people to work for you right now in certain situations, I’m willing to bet finding a lawyer right now who is not buried in all kinds of other legal issues relating to businesses closing and other stuff going on and face mask hell, they’re not going to want to take this little thing on and be like, “Really? These two ladies are arguing over where the line is and we all know you had it professionally done. Yeah, I’m a little busy for that.”
Jack Butala:
Actually I was just going to say a different version of that. I’ll tell ya, if you run a business or you own a business and you’ve got people working for you and customers and vendors and stuff, like we all do, some version of it, stuff comes up just like this. So it happens to Jill and I all the time. Not necessarily with land deals. In fact, almost never with land deals. It’s usually issues with employees or we’ve got just one rogue person out of 1000 customers, for whatever we’re doing, either with Land Academy or NeighborScoop or whatever-
Jill DeWit:
They just work it out.
Jack Butala:
… for whatever reason, the topic rises to the point where Jill and I hear about it.
Jill DeWit:
And then you work it out.
Jack Butala:
So here’s what happens in our environment.
Jill DeWit:
It’s like, “What is it going to take to make everybody happy?”
Jack Butala:
I walk into Jill’s office, because I don’t really have an office. This is my office. And I say, “Did you hear about this thing?” And she says, “Yeah. Are you taking it seriously?” “Nah, just a couple of days, let it go.”
Jill DeWit:
And it does. Everything works out. I’m trying to think. The only time I do get … We all get this. If you’re in the business and do what we do, every other day you get someone saying, “I’m turning you in for sending me this letter.”
Jack Butala:
Right. That’s a great example.
Jill DeWit:
That’s really what happens right now. And it’s a version of that. Are you really going to go, “I’m out of business because someone might do something”? No. Have we got phone calls from different people? Of course. And all you do is explain what you’re doing. You’re not doing anything wrong, you’re not doing anything bad, and everybody is going to go, “Oh, okay, she’s got a bug up her whatever.” Yep, she does. Understood.
Jack Butala:
I’m offended at the offer price for my land.
Jill DeWit:
And I’m going to do something about it. What? Okay.
Jack Butala:
As she says with the mask through a phone by herself in the kitchen.
Jill DeWit:
Right.
Jack Butala:
Today’s topic, top five land business tools you need and should avoid. This is the meat of the show. There’s people that are asking us more and more, me specifically, asking like, “There’s all these tools out there.” There used to be no tools. When I started this, man, it was like the back of the newspaper or eBay on the sell side, newspaper classifieds, or on the buy side, there was tax auctions, and that’s it, or county data. You could go get county data, parse it all out and send letters to people who own land. There was no such thing as RealQuest or DataTree or ParcelFact or any of that stuff. So now there’s all these tools, largely because Jill and I started Land Academy and started creating tools.
We started to make public the tools that we created for ourselves a long time ago to buy and sell land. And we just made them pretty. We all had the beta versions of all of it and when it broke, I went back in there and fixed it. So, it’s become this little micro niche-y frenzy for people to create tools and all kinds of crap out there. And most of it’s crap. So I want to set the record straight and talk about the five land business tools that you actually need. I think you need. And I asked Jill to do-
Jill DeWit:
We have our own lists. Let’s go through them.
Jack Butala:
And we didn’t share notes.
Jill DeWit:
All right.
Jack Butala:
Go first.
Jill DeWit:
You want me to go first? Okay. Here’s what I think you really need to be in this business. Number one, you’ve got to have data. And like you said, it used to be the old way going to the county, getting a list. Oh my gosh.
Jack Butala:
It would take months.
Jill DeWit:
Paperless, on DVD. And then you’ve got to sort through it, figure out … It was just a disaster. Thank goodness for RealQuest Pro and DataTree. So we use primarily RealQuest Pro for land, DataTree for houses. So lots of great information there. So that’s number one. Number two … Do you want me to just blow through my five?
Jack Butala:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jill DeWit:
Okay. You’ve got to have a good mail solution. You’re not going to hand write letters. You’re not going to do them yourself. If you think you’re going to print them out and have your family sitting at the table licking stamps, good luck. Because after the first 1000, now they’re out, if you got them to that point. And not to mention, this is more expensive anyway. Not only is the pain and suffering that you’re going to get from your family-
Jack Butala:
I love that phrase. Pain and suffering is my, last month I’ve used that phrase at least once a day.
Jill DeWit:
It is expensive. But you’re not going to save any money on a stamp. So you need a good mail solution. Ours is a company that we created. It’s Offers 2 Owners. They do the mail merge. I mean, I can literally just hand them, here’s my spreadsheet with my data ready to go. Here’s my letter template. I fix it, put my name in it and tweaked a paragraph, made it my own and they merge it. They get it out. Done. It’s awesome. They also check it for bad addresses. There’s all kinds of things that they do that save me money and save me time.
Number three, you’ve got to have a phone solution if the calls are coming in. If you’re doing this right, you don’t have time to be bogged down with every phone call person chewing you out. So you have to have a phone solution and preferably a mail solution. So we do both. So, we use our own in house phones right now, but most of our people use PATLive. It’s great. And you get 20% off through Land Academy. And then as a mail solution, these virtual mail things are the bomb. So that’s what we use a lot now for our mailers, where they get the letters in, they open it for you, scan it, and email it to you.
Jack Butala:
What Jill’s talking about from a mail solution standpoint is not Offers 2 Owners, not getting the mail out.
Jill DeWit:
Now getting it in.
Jack Butala:
That’s a bulk mail company. She’s talking about-
Jill DeWit:
Inbound.
Jack Butala:
… a virtual place where all the sellers sign their purchase agreements, send them into a place. They open the mail, scan it and email it to you. And you get all the good and not the bad.
Jill DeWit:
Right. So, yeah. And then number four, you need to have, you’re doing your due diligence. This is my biggest. Actually the two biggies honestly, are RealQuest Pro for me, and then the second biggie is NeighborScoop.
Jack Butala:
Yeah, I agree.
Jill DeWit:
So, NeighborScoop is ParcelFact.
Jack Butala:
We own NeighborScoop, by the way. I’m just trying to disclose this.
Jill DeWit:
With phone numbers … I was going to say that. We created ParcelFact-
Jack Butala:
I’ll sit here.
Jill DeWit:
It’s okay. You did say, “Jill, do your list,” did you not?
Jack Butala:
Yep.
Jill DeWit:
Jill do your list, but you can’t really do it, because I want to get in there a lot.
Jack Butala:
It’s the Jill show, everyone.
Jill DeWit:
You said, “Jill, do your list,” and I stopped and said, “You want me to do all five?” And you said yes.
Jack Butala:
That’s fine.
Jill DeWit:
I’m going to do all five. All right. NeighborScoop. Okay. First we created ParcelFact, which is just the facts, man. And then we made it prettier. We added flood maps. We added phone numbers. We added a way to have it all up here, the whole boundary appear in Google Earth Pro, all kinds of great little features. So check out neighborscoop.com. It is the bomb, and I couldn’t do my job without it.
Jack Butala:
I couldn’t either.
Jill DeWit:
I mean I could, but it wouldn’t be like it is now. I can review 10 properties like that. In the old days, it’d be like, “Oh, no.” And then finally, my last tool that you’ve got to have as a way to stay organized, it’s a CRM. It’s hard. We’ve done it. You can kind of do it with a spreadsheet. It’s really not as effective as it could be. So, a CRM for us is the answer.
Jack Butala:
And Jill’s about half right. I agree with the data. I agree with the bulk mail solution. I absolutely agree with the phone situation. Those are all acquisition tools. Let’s take one step back. We separate and all of our members separate our land businesses into three sections: acquisitions, engineering, and sales. The acquisitions tools on my list are data and mail, just like Jill, and phone answering, there’s three. And then in engineering, NeighborScoop and some type of professional-
Jill DeWit:
Wait, you already have more than five. I was limited to five.
Jack Butala:
Well, I’m going to have more than five.
Jill DeWit:
Okay.
Jack Butala:
Is NeighborScoop and some type of person, for new people, it’s going to be you yourself, to post the property, make it look great on the internet. So you might need a photographer. It might be you yourself. And then to get it out onto social media and including the MLS. For us right now, that tool is handpicked real estate agents, land specific real estate agents in the area. The vast majority at the level where we are, the numbers that we’re trying to achieve, we need expert local help. We learned that buying and selling houses.
And then finally that comes to sales. And my tool is Jill. So I’m not sure what you do about that, but I solved it, and her name’s Jill. So you have to have somebody who’s in their soul and in their bloodstream running through their blood, they want to sell the piece of property. And everybody in the advanced group, the Land Academy advanced group, it’s either themselves or it’s their spouses or somebody they partnered with. There’s no chance that anybody can ever get into the advanced group without a secret weapon of sales. And that has to do with land and every other company that you are involved in or that you start.
I was thinking early. I was having a cup of coffee this morning, along the lines with sales. And I think all the people that we’ve ever spoken with that are in our groups, or Jill and I get pitched companies a lot. People just find us and they say, “We want to start this thing and I’ve got this great idea,” and this and this and this. And my first question is-
Jill DeWit:
How much does it make?
Jack Butala:
… do you have a customer? Do you have a customer? And almost all the, the answer is no. They’re so excited about the product.
Jill DeWit:
I know what you’re talking about.
Jack Butala:
Maybe they’re tech people. The tech thing, it works, but it looks terrible.
Jill DeWit:
Everybody has an idea. It’s like they have this idea and they-
Jack Butala:
And then I started thinking about-
Jill DeWit:
I’m trying to lighten the mood. You’re getting really serious.
Jack Butala:
Why? I don’t want to lighten the mood.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, okay. You want to be serious now.
Jack Butala:
Yeah, I don’t want to skip along the top-
Jill DeWit:
No, I’m not saying skip along the top.
Jack Butala:
… or lighten up the mood. This is so important. I want you, if you’re listening to this or you’re in this business, to think about getting a customer today. So I looked back on my whole land career. I started with an article I read this morning-
Jill DeWit:
I understand.
Jack Butala:
… about how I got customers. And so the reason that we get acquisition customers is we send out all this mail. And we get a lot-
Jill DeWit:
They’re called sellers.
Jack Butala:
… of customers and it’s not free. The reason we get people to sell property to back of the day, it was eBay. Now it’s because we’re sending out maybe letters. We’re using social media correctly. In my case, I mean, Jill is doing it. It’s in her soul to go get customers. So this is the very, very nucleus of what we do, is getting customers. So we don’t talk about that as a tool. It’s so important and so overlooked, and it just hit me like a ton of bricks this morning, for some reason. Does that make sense?
Jill DeWit:
Yeah, yeah.
Jack Butala:
You know why we haven’t talked about it? Because we just naturally do it, both of us.
Jill DeWit:
Yeah, totally understand. Did you get through all your five?
Jack Butala:
Yeah.
Jill DeWit:
Okay.
Jack Butala:
Tools you don’t need. You don’t need these silly pricing tools. I would avoid it.
Jill DeWit:
Those scare me.
Jack Butala:
Yep.
Jill DeWit:
Because there’s too many things that can go wrong. I can’t tell an easy button who’s scraping a bunch of stuff to account for every little one off thing that I can spot.
Jack Butala:
Right. You don’t need extremely expensive education. After you go through our program and there’s a couple other good ones out there I’ll choose after that, and they’re all in the $2,000 or less range. you’re spending too much money. What they’re doing is going to hold your hand, and you should know this stuff anyway. If you can’t get educated in an eight or 10 hour self-help type program, and then be provided the tools, there’s something wrong with you. There’s not something wrong with the education gap. And these people know how to … Believe me.
Jill DeWit:
Is this, “Hi, welcome to tough love Monday”? What the heck? Geez.
Jack Butala:
And these people know how to do these programs.
Jill DeWit:
Like you’re coming out … I’m like, “What’s going on today” Last week, we’re all relaxed and silly. And today you’re like, “Okay, we’re back to work now, everyone. Knock it off.”
Jack Butala:
Well, yeah, Jill.
Jill DeWit:
Well, we can still have fun too. Can we not?
Jack Butala:
I’m having a blast.
Jill DeWit:
Okay. Well, oh and it shows. It shows. What the heck?
Jack Butala:
Are you not having fun here?
Jill DeWit:
Oh my gosh. I’m trying to like … You’re getting a little preachy.
Jack Butala:
Oh, all right.
Jill DeWit:
No, this is so funny because this is the reality. This is such the truth. I keep going, “This is how Steven says this,” and I’m not picking on you, but I kind of am picking on you.
Jack Butala:
It’s okay.
Jill DeWit:
I am happy dammit. That’s how Steve-
Jack Butala:
Oh, you don’t like my delivery.
Jill DeWit:
Yes, that’s what I’m saying.
Jack Butala:
You like the content, not the delivery.
Jill DeWit:
Well, the content’s fine. Yeah. It’s just that you’re sounding a little preachy.
Jack Butala:
Okay. Happy you could join us today then.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, no.
Jack Butala:
No, no. No, no, forget it.
Jill DeWit:
Oh, no, no.
Jack Butala:
Half the people are, they’re like with a pencil in their hand. They want to know the rest of the story.
Jill DeWit:
No, don’t stop. Please finish the story.
Jack Butala:
This industry is riddled, riddled with fraudulent educators who have no real … For some reason, there’s something about this industry that, and it’s not just land or real estate, but it’s making money on the side or whatever. It’s just riddled with fraudulent crooks. And so please, please be careful and do tons of research before you spend any money on education at all. That’s why we put up landinvestors.com so that people can say, “Is this stupid? Is what these guys are doing stupid and do they follow through? Or what’s the downside?” Or all of it. So, just be careful. My point is, you need education.
Jill DeWit:
Just to connect with people and find out if it’s going to work for you.
Jack Butala:
You need some education and you need a peer group where you can bounce stuff off of. And it’s a tool that you need. You just don’t need a really bad one. And unfortunately, there’s a lot more bad ones out there than good ones.
Jill DeWit:
Another thing that I said that you don’t need and you shouldn’t do is a VA for everything. You have stuff that you want to keep control of.
Jack Butala:
Yeah. There’s personality types, and I’m guilty of this, that sit around and say, “I’m going to delegate everything.” And that’s just not, unfortunately, it’s not realistic, especially in the beginning.
Jill DeWit:
Because then what happens is next thing you know your accountant spent all your money and you’re like, “What just happened?” Or your team made a bad decision and they bought all this property that was worthless. No, I’m not kidding.
Jack Butala:
I’m not either.
Jill DeWit:
I mean, it’s never happened to us, but I’m just saying.
Jack Butala:
Now you’re making me laugh.
Jill DeWit:
But it could happen. If you put a VA in charge of your acquisitions, you better be careful because they’re spending your money. so I wouldn’t do that too. Anything else?
Jack Butala:
Yeah, but we’re way over time.
Jill DeWit:
Okay. We’ll pick up tomorrow where we left off, I’m sure. Happy you could join us today. Five days a week, Monday through Friday, you can find us right here on the Land Academy Show.
Jack Butala:
Tomorrow, the episode on the Land Academy Show is called area home sales and how they dictate the same area land sales. You are not alone in your real estate ambition.
Jill DeWit:
I wasn’t picking on you. I was just kind of like, “You’re getting a little”-
Jack Butala:
It could have been more concise.
Jill DeWit:
That would be okay. Are you … Go ahead.
Jack Butala:
It could have been more concise.
Jill DeWit:
I don’t care.
Jack Butala:
Jill, I’ve got a very thick skin. You could break me down on the show and I would just … because you know why? Because I see the numbers on the show and it’s okay.
Jill DeWit:
I would not do that and you know that.
Jack Butala:
I know.
Jill DeWit:
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Jack Butala:
I think you did great.
Jill DeWit:
Thank you.
Jack Butala:
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Jill DeWit:
We are Steve and Jill.
Jack Butala:
Information.
Jill DeWit:
And inspiration.
Jack Butala:
To buy undervalued property. That’s hilarious.
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